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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Who was it that said, Woe is me, I am a man of unclean lips? You think you are better and more righteous that that prophet?
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    if you can lose it. It is not eternal. It is conditional Please ponder on this
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    wait. John spoke in present tense, Not past tense. If we say we have (at this present time) no sin we decieve ourselves.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    instead of attacking me, read the passage Dont take a verse out of context and try to push that verse down peoples throats without going into the passage to get context. That verse is the ending of the sermon on the mount.
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    If God appeared for you today. You would fall on your face. Because you KNOW you are not sinless. why you hide it is beyond me Jesus took the penalty of sin away. sinless perfection would require perfect love 24/7, The only man I have ever seen or heard of that accomplished that was Christ.
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Again, this is out of context He told these jews. WHo thought they had no sin because they obeyed the law. after just destroying their thinking by saying the law says, but I tell you. and holding up all that is true. what Gods standard is..'BE PERFECT" Thats the standard, and no one had met...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Jesus was telling these Jews. Who were under law. and thought they were righteous according to the law. The standard they had to love if they wanted to earn their way.. Be perfect as your father is perfect. He told them that to try to help them to see they have not met that standard. and get...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    WE are believers. Not unbelievers. John included himself. that's why he said WE
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    If you think you are sinless. I have some prime real estate to sell you!!
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Those who say they can stop sinning are no different than a legalist.. remember, a pharisee thought he did not sin.. They only believe if you sin your not saved. A legalist says you can sin yourself out.. The largest religion on earth is a legalistic doctrine which can be lost. in fact. the...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    the penalty of sin is death. If you commit 1 sin, you have fallen short of the requirement set in stone by God to enter heaven based on your goodness. I think we all need to ask ourselves. How m,any death penalty (sins) do we have against us. then stop looking at other people and take account...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    It should be. But to human thinking. Just saying I can trust God and receive his gift in faith, and all my sin is forgiven forever more is against human wisdom. So it is the hardest thing to even conjure up as even a possibility thats why Faith gospel is called the narrow gate, and few there...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    Lol.. But @Bible Highlighter claims he does not worship. I feel sorry for all the people who do not have the word of God in their own language.. Sadly, I feel it is just a another supremacy idea, I grew up in a KJV only church. And used to make the same arguments.. I am so glad I was healed...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    What I think phileo is does not matter What I see (jesus asked peter. Do you agape me, Peter. Unable to say he agape Jesus, Said he phileo him) Is there anythign wrong wiht that? No. Did Jesus confront him for not saying he agape him? No./ In fact, remember, Peter denied jesus three times. How...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    typical still As for something being created by CS lewis. lol. You should be ashamed of yourself. you do not think people can think for themselves? I did not get anything from CS lewis. I got it by looking up the greek. I also have stated this is just 1 example. yet you seem to act like it is...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    Typical response from someone who is proud and thinks they are above all others. and have no error in their thinking You have to make fun of the person who disagrees with you. This just further boasts my opinion of the English flaw of all English bibles.. and takes me further away from...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    lolol A translation is only as good as the language it is translated in. If the language is weak, You will get a weak translation. I have faith in my bible. I have faith it will do what it needs to to make me complete in christ. (I do nto use the kjv by the way. Last time I tried to read it...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    You can post all of this until your blue in the face my friend, It does not support your case. I repeat. Jesus: "Do you agape me?" Peter: "I phileo you" Bible Highlighter: "both are saying the same" the means people will go to to try to prove their idol bible is perfect is just astonishing
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    Which PROVES my comment that the ENGLISH language is flawed. Hence ANY english bible will have that inherent flaw in it. so there IS NO PERFECT FLAWLESS ENGLISH BIBLE So you show there is a difference. But then say there is none? I am sorry but it goes deeper than that. Thats why peter got...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Thoughts about using a KJV update?

    I do not ignore them. I looked at them I focused on them I looked at what Jesus asked I looked at how peter responded. And I discounted your points. because they do not prove your point. They just once again help you to fail to see the truth that Peter could not tell Jesus he agape him.. And...