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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    When did I say this? I d nt remember this Bath attacks are satanic. Remember he goes after the woman, But God protects her. So Satan will continue when he can to go after her. He must keep God from keeping his promise.
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The only blind one is the one who says zech is about the church Those in Zech 13 are scattered (2.3) this occured in 70 AD.. 1/3 are saved, this is the remnant, Even paul mentioned the remnant in Rom 11
  3. Eternally Grateful

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    No, You misunderstand grace grace by defenition is unmerited favor Paul said if it is of grace it is no longer of works, otherwise Grace is no longer grace, In both instances. Your wrong..
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Again, The first 3.5 years is a time of peace. The covenant made with many is some sort of peace treaty I am sure, which the world buys into. I believe it is the financial collapse of the world which will usher in the antichrist. He takes over banking so much that no one can buy or sell. I...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Zech 13 is about Israel and Isreal only. Te 1/3 would be the remnant, And they will be refined like fire. It will be part of the repentance of Israel in the time of Jacobs trouble. The church (gentile church) have no part in this.
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I agree But remember, they are all tryign to attack jerusalem. One army does not even get near jerusalem. So not sure they are an actual threat to the beast. The second one is all the armies comming together.. This one will be defeated by christ himself.. I do not think either are in the first...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I already gave you one you totally ignore. If it is grace it is not of works, lest grace is no longer grace. These are the words inspired By God which paul wrote down. Yet your church claims grace is from belief plus works. Well that is a total contradiction of terms, and in effect makes paul...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    yeah it is literal. Its based on Gods foreknowledge, God is omniscient, He knew Christ was going to die before time began, he knew when and how. Just like he knew you or I would accept his gift before time. Its gods character. To say God did not know is to limit God
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    I never said otherwise. True But this does not take away the fact that we are elect before the foundation of the world.
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    God chose based on his forknowledge before time began. We can not ignore that fact. God knew who they would be before time began. it is just not as the fatalist says he chose to save them randomly
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    Who mentioned John? Election is biblical. Not only in Israel as being Gods elect nation. But in the born again as Gods elect or chosen people. As far as where we have romans, 2 Timothy, Titus 1 peter 2 peter. Look up the word elect you will see it (there is even elect angels)
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    It is biblical Just not in the way fatalism says it happens.
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    Romans 9 - 11 is paul answering. Question he posed in vs 6. Did God make a mistake. A mistake at what? Chosing Israel. He systematically answers every argument in refusal to what the jews were saying about themselves. And about what the OT stated would happen. He spoke of how Israel would...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    Not all of chapter 9 - 11 is my friend. If you take it as that is context. You will never understand why Paul took a time out in his letter to address a major issue which was occuring in rome at the time.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Sadly, He is stuck in the same situation the pharisees where in, tradition and what they thought was true having written the word themselves and having the priesthood which could trace back to Aaron blinded them to the truth also.
  16. Eternally Grateful

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Once again When any church causes the word of God to contradict, its not a church. Your church does this, So it is not Gods church. They can claim it until they are blue in the face. Its not true Isreal was Gods chosen nation. Yet Israel in the time of Christ was nor preaching Gods word. They...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    thats why I believe it will occur in the end. We have two attacks actually. One God himself puts down, the second is armageddon. which occurs at his return. as he personally puts it down.. I believe the antichrist loses power at the end due to all that is going on.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    remember, the covenant is signed at the beginning of the 7 years. Then in the middle of the week The AOD is placed in the temple.. In that instance the antichrist literally breaks his own covenant.
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated

    But that is not what romans 9-11 is about. He uses salvation as context in a few verses (actually he uses part of the abrahamic covenant in which there is no jew or gentile) but that is not context of the whole passage,. When you make it that way, you take romans 9 out of context and...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I believe this is towards the end of the period of time called the great tribulation. Alot of stuff which are part of Gods wrath occures before this event