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Then you can correct me and show me how I misrepresented what you said. You used the word spirit and seal. What other seal could you be talking about? I was actually saying it to help you and show you what the word says To just put me on ignore is rude. if that's the way your gonna be I hope...

Not trying to jump ahead, Just trying to get the facts straight. You said we begin under a state of grace before we are saved, that's not true. We are under a state of condemnation before we are saved. If we do not get this right. we may mess up the rest of the salvation process.

Sorry, You stated that we begin salvation with the spirit of Christ sealed in us. I was just stating the factual statement of what that means

The moment one is saved, they are given the seal of the spirit as a pledge UNTIL the day of redemption

I disagree The world is not under grace, they are under pretty much law. While grace has paid for them to come under grace, God will not force it on anyone. A non believer is in a condemned state (he who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already A non believer is...

In John 6 he did not say so. In john 3 he did not say so. Mark 16 just says be baptised. t does not mention water. If your not baptized by the spirit your still dead in your sin Why are you fighting it? why do you want to replace the baptism of (performed by) God with the baptism of...

Jesus did not open the door my friend. He said it is finished. Paid in full. He took what was against us, contrary to us and nailed it to the cross Yu can’t pay for sin my friend The penalty of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life. Through christ. It appears you have not yet...

Um it goes far deeper than this my friend The cross is what redeemed your sins If CHrist was mer man, and not God. Your sins was never remitted. You can repent until your blue in the face. Your still dead in your sins. Only God can redeem mankind of all sin. Mere mortal man can not do that...

If Jesus was not God, your still dead in your sin

Titus 3 is baptism of the spirit, not water Water is a work f righteousness. Paul told Titus, not by works of righteousness which we have done (water baptism, The Eucharist, Penance, Comfession or whatever work you want to insert) but by GODS MERCY he saved us through the WASHING OF...

BAPTISM WAS NOT MENTIONED IN JOHN 3. HOW MANY MORE TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD? There was baptism (water) in the OT. It has always been around. But it was NOT the only baptism found The issue is the people who translated the Bible did not actually translate the word. They transliterated the...

see, this is what I mean, who ever obeyed the ten commands as God required? Moses made them confirm an oath that they would obey every word. And guess what. No one fulfilled that requirement. Hence as the good book says. All have sinned and fall short of that standard. So in one aspect your...

The ten moral statements written and grace on stone. Given to moses, when he was up on the mountain. In which when he came down. His face shone. So that people were afraid. They were of course called the tablets of testimony then’ Exodus 34: 29 Now it was so, when Moses came down from Mount...

Do you always have to respond with some snide remark? God gave the jews all kinds of commands, and he said blessed are you if you do them. But non of them were required for salvation. If baptism was required. Jesus would have told nicodemus, As moses lifted the serpent so to must the son of...

If it was baptism jesus would have said so

yep water every seen a woman who gives birth. Their water breaks This is called being born in the flesh. One must be born again though there is water/flesh birth, and there is spirit birth. I believe Nicodemus understood, because jesus told him how to be born again. Through faith in the...

the commands (law) where given as a ministry of death. The schoolmaster which leads us to christ. They only teach us one thing about God. God is perfect. and we are not. And he set the standard we have failed to keep. A child of God seeks the law of love. Not the law of Moses. that law can not...

IT DOES NOT GIVE WHAT JESUS PROMISED Whether you see it or not is not up to me.. You can only believe what you want. Kiddo? Listen here kiddo. Your the one calling Jesus a liar. Not me Jesus did not tell them if you eat the bread I give you and get baptized and go to confession, and do this...

those are commands not requirements, making them requirments makes it a salvation by works. As paul said works cancels out grace. You can not have it both. you can only have one or the other God gave the jews many commands. They were not requirements. The law never saved anyone The sacraments...

lol.. I see you are buying what you have been told. and not looking at it as a whole Jesus used the word to tell us this is so important, he does not want us just to taste it. But to gnaw and chew on it. The people who followed him was just fed the day before. they were tasting jesus and his...