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  1. amadeus

    I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today

    To babble mean to confuse. Without an interpretation in the church it would be confusion which as you indicated is NOT God nor of God: "But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." I Cor 14:28 My wife remains silent in the church...
  2. amadeus

    I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today

    A person who is reading the Bible and praying [talking] to God regularly [daily?] should know His voice as opposed the voice of a stranger, should he not? If he does not, perhaps he is not one of His sheep...! "But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter...
  3. amadeus

    Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

    But if a person can believe the written histories of man outside of the scriptures, all of these mainline churches, have changed, have they not... over the years of their existence? Why should they have changed? Why should the people who rejected Catholicism during the Reformation have changed...
  4. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    I don't know about "best" question. Simply answer one or more of the three questions I posed in post #84.
  5. amadeus

    I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today

    I guess there are not many messages in tongues with interpretations given these days, but believe me they do exist. That they are not given more frequently than they are is likely the fault of the doubters among believers. My wife has been blessed with both sides of that gift. That is, she...
  6. amadeus

    I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today

    What do those things have to do with your declaration that tongues are demonic? For us the tongues are parables which require interpreters. For Jesus and the parables He spoke, He was also the interpreter. Many Christians [?] who speak in babbling tongues are still babies, some of them long...
  7. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    I could give a similar testimony with the opposite emphasis from my experience, but what would that do for anyone else reading this thread? You still fail to address any point that I mentioned or any question that I asked. If you had it would simply emphasize differences. It would not establish...
  8. amadeus

    Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

    It speaks of everyone who puts on false colors in the name of God, be they Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, or non-denominational, or simply single persons such as you or me! Jesus denounced them because He recognized them. Neither you nor I are Jesus. We still see, at best, through...
  9. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    Is anyone confessing to be a follower of Christ to anything like Him or any of the original Apostles He appointed? Hopefully some are on the approach, but whose job, again I ask you, is it to separate the tares from the wheat? Are you a qualified reaper given that task by God now? "Beloved...
  10. amadeus

    I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today

    And what exactly is a demon and how is it that sincere believers end up speaking the words of such demons? Were the words of Jesus demonic when he spoke parables and most of his listeners did not understand God's message in those parables? Why would speaking in tongues be different? What...
  11. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    Still you miss the point. Whether they are scandalously wrong or scrupulously correct in their appearance before you and before me it does not mean we should always avoid them, nor does it mean we should quickly jump on their bandwagon . Paul writes: "Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be...
  12. amadeus

    Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

    Who is talking about false prophets and false ministers of God? Are you talking to yourself? I know and I would suppose that most, if not all, of the people reading this thread know that such falsehood exists. Would you throw out the baby with the bathwater? Jesus did not reject God and the...
  13. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    "And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he...
  14. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    You avoided both the OP and what I said in my post because to even consider it might make you consider questioning that which you have set in concrete in your own mind. Consider also returning to the lowest room and letting nothing of yourself determine God's plan. Rather let Him determine it...
  15. amadeus

    Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

    How about a man whose foot was crushed by machinery and whole mass had turn to gangrene for lack of care, but then with a prayer of faith a new foot grew to replace the dead one? How about a sister praying silently alone at the back of the church because no one would sit near her as they were...
  16. amadeus

    Israel is the Church

    Chuckle away! But consider what I wrote and what the scripture says and what God means. Because they too often quench the Holy Spirit people assume and presume that their doctrine is correct and everyone else's doing the same thing is wrong. What Solomon wrote 3000 years ago still applies today...
  17. amadeus

    Israel is the Church

    Believers who read the Bible without walking in the Spirit as they do so get nothing "good" from it. The interpretation you use for II Cor 3 is an old one and may also contain truth, but I would discard the other out of hand. You say the one I presented is a misinterpretation, but you know...
  18. amadeus

    Israel is the Church

    Amen! You said that we differed and I was agreeing and trying explain the differences that I saw. I guess I did not communicate. Jesus was dead on the cross, a dead carcass, until he resurrected! The Book of scriptures is like Jesus dead on the cross prior to His resurrection. "Not that we...
  19. amadeus

    POLL: Was Jesus PERFECT?

    Actually if Jesus had sinned he could not have paid the price for his sin any more than we could qualify to pay the price for our own sins. The sacrifice had to be without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. This is why Jesus was sent. Adam and Eve killed themselves and all of their offspring...
  20. amadeus

    Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

    So no argument. God gives the increase if any is given to you or to me in the things of God