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I DON'T GET IT!!

You look a lot younger than 67. I guess that's a silly thing for me to say... I look younger than you !!!

Rollo, restate something?

You weren't there but it was all written down. Who knows more about what Jesus meant about anything? Some guy today who studies theology or someone from the 1st century who had occasion to learn with John the Apostle? Who cares what people of today mean or say? A different kind of Christianity...

What were the works of the law being used for?

Maybe I have the truth? What did the early church teach about salvation and eternal security? Many of the church fathers living from the first to the third centuries believed and taught conditional security. They taught that a person was saved by faith through the grace of God but they had to...

I agree. But we weren't repeating yet. Not like we're going to change each other's minds. It's good to exchange ideas though...

Shaw. But you tire too easily!

Sure they do. You just dont like what they say.

How? Because salt preserves us? We, the saved, are the salt of the earth. If we LOSE our saltiness... Those are the unsaved. LOSE. Lost. Saved. Lost... when we Lose our saltiness.

Romans 5 explains how one man sinned requiring another man to sacrifice Himself (who was also God since only God could fix such damage) to set things straight for those who accepted the plan. This does not mean I misunderstood Romans 5:16b...

YES! God had our salvation planned. But if Adam never sinned.... We also would have had the preternatural gifts passsed on to us! We would not have needed a savior. If was not better that Adam sinned. It was a disaster. It changed our relationship to God.

What does "have salt in yourselves mean"? Jesus said we are the salt of the earth, not of ourselves. 2 Chronicles 13:5 A Salt Covenant Salt was added to sacrifices as a sign of purification (of the sacrifice). If we are the salt of the earth, we are the purification of the earth. Or at least...

Our sin affects our INDIVIDUAL position with God. Adam's sin affected EVERYONE'S position with God. Romans 5:12 Through Adam's sin, DEATH entered into the world. There was no death before. HIS sin is a slight tad bigger than any sin WE could commit. Death has been transmitted to all men...

I knew you were going there. But I'm an honest person. SO, you think the sin THEY commited (attributed to Adam, BTW) was THE SAME as the sin we commit? Is this why THEIR sin was the cause of so much harm to the rest of humanity? If we sin it could hurt ourselves or someone close to us. When...

Yes. No. Salvation is not lost by sinning or we'd ALL BE LOST! It's lost by abandoning God. By losing our faith. By no longer trusting in Him for our salvation. I've been mad at God in my life. But that did NOT cause me to lose my salvation. I did not ABANDON Him, I was just mad at him.

You asked for someone who lost their salvation. A and E were in the Garden. They lost all their preternatural gifts. They lost everything... They were banished from the garden. They spoke to God and now God was mad at them. How much more lost could one get? In the end, I don't know if they were...

They both mean the same Rollo. Mathew and Luke. Listen to what Lukes says: "and if it loses its saltiness"... This means that it CAN lose it's saltiness. Why else would Luke have said this?? Please don't respond. I'd like to add my study of salt from Mathew... Later.

Adam and Eve.