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Kepha, Here's an idea for you... Instead of arguing Catholic, non-catholic, why don't you just post verses and say what you believe they say? This would be far more interesting. First of all, this Pope is a pastor, not a "theologian" although he does know theolgy. He's no dummy as some would...

How do we learn from each other or others? I do believe that we could open up new insights and get a new perspective on something. But I believe we should be taught from churches, from accredited theologians and persons who have PhD's. What we need to know for salvation is in the N.T. and we...

Two thoughts: 1. Obedience to the Law Obedience of Faith We are under obedience of Faith. We work because we have faith, not TO GET faith. 2. I'd say Abraham was "saved" when he left Ur. Why? Because for him to leave Ur he would have had to have faith in the one telling him to leave...

I never intend to change anyone's mind. Only God could do that. It's good to exchange ideas however. One waters, one plants...it could apply to our discussions too. It's good to think things through, make sure you believe what you believe... Law and the ability to keep it... WHO keeps it...

Amadeus, There is no cost to getting in. You've stated sanctification exactly. There is a cost to be paid. The cost is bearable though. Jesus said that His yoke is easy and His burden is light. That's because we have the Holy Spirit to help us along the stoney path. But getting IN is...

Will be praying for his wisdom.

Theology is good. There have always been theologians. Paul was one. The problem is that we now have modern day ones that are changing Christianity. So you don't trust man... But it seems to me that the Holy Spirit also seems to tell different persons different ideas... Solution??

I got things I gotta do!!! Oh no. I'm a stickler for properly spoken English. I taught my children that if there's one thing they MUST learn in school --- it was English. They listened and obeyed. :)

Oh my gosh. Don't move to NY!!

I went throught it again. I don't see how Paul could be speaking to non-believers. First of all, he's writing to believers. I understand that judgement is not the main point. He's saying that we are not to turn our backs on all we've learned. He's saying that we are to hold fast our CONFESSION...

Didn't know the meaning of words was changing!!

I could or should start a thread on the Kingdom. It's very much misunderstood. There are no laws in the Kingdom that you would not WANT to follow. Because following them makes it good for all that belong. First of all we'd have to discuss why Jesus came to us. Was it for salvation? Yes. What...

Yeah. I didn't understand him either. But that's nothing new...! Do they say "yeah" in Aussie land?

Oh please... I'm having enough trouble trying to understand YOU!

I think we're discussing this very concept on another thread. BTW, I didn't get an alert for this... Easy to miss posts.

This conversation is becoming silly. I'm not talking about words and what they mean. I'm talking about CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY.

Strong's explains words. NOT THEOLOGY. You cannot learn theology from Strong's.

Catholics call SANCTIFICATION ongoing justification. Are you catholic??

Je ne sais pas.

Uffa. He was justified by His belief and faith in God. Hebrews 11. We are saved by FAITH, even in the O.T. Isaac was obeying. We've come to call this works. Fine.