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You understand I'm saying that as well, right? I, too, see the act of having part in the first resurrection as going from being spiritually dead in sins to spiritually alive in Christ. But is it an "anastasis"? I'm not so sure about that. Does that really matter? No, it does not. I thought you...

This doesn't really answer my question. Why wouldn't we just meet Him on the earth instead of meeting Him in the air if we're just going to end up on the earth, anyway? Neither. Revelation 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from...

Why did you refer to the branch (singular) being broken off when Paul talked about branches being broken off. Do you not have any interest in quoting Paul accurately? What are you talking about? Any idea? I truly think that even you don't know what you're talking about at least half of the...

It's amazing that you said all of this and I can't understand a word you said. Can anyone else translate this for me?

Well, obviously, Jesus meant to say "This is not that bread....". According to CadyandZoe's logic, anyway. Which, obviously, is not logical at all.

To him it means "this is not that". He can't twist Peter's words any worse if he tried.

The beginning of the fulfillment was occurring on the day of Pentecost, otherwise Peter would not have said "this" (what was happening on the day of Pentecost when the Spirit was being poured out on all the believers there) is "that" (what was prophesied in Joel 2:28-32). You're ludicrously...

Will murder not be a sin during the supposed future Millennium or during Satan's little season? Remember, from God's perspective, hating someone counts as murder. 1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him...

You responded before you even got to where I explained what I meant by that. Of course it is true that we go from being dead in sins to spiritually alive in Christ and that can be looked at as a spiritual resurrection, but what I went on to explain is that the Greek word "anastasis" is otherwise...

At least we are apparently in agreement that he doesn't know much. And my question is whether or not this is what pre-tribs typically believe? That's what I've always thought, but there seems to be a few in this thread who believe there are signs that occur first before the supposed pre-trib...

You used all these words to say nothing. It's unbelievable. Not one word of this addresses the question that I was asking, which shows that you somehow don't even understand the question. So, let me ask it just in relation to your own view. Do you believe that there are any signs that have to...

Exactly. I will accept Peter's understanding of Joel over some person who is so lacking in discernment that he even denies the deity of Christ.

You say the most nonsensical things I've ever seen in my life. It does not say a branch (singular) was cut off, it says branches (plural) were cut off. The branches represent Israelite unbelievers who were cut off because of unbelief. The remnant of believing Israelites were not cut off. So...

That's a lie. I'm doing no such thing. I see that you have run out of material and now are resorting to lying because that's all you have left. That's when you know you should just throw in the towel and let the adults discuss these things.

You don't even bother giving an interpretation of Romans 9:6-8 at all, so how can anyone take you seriously? What are you talking about? Do you have any idea as to what you were intending to say here? I certainly don't.

None of them were called by the title "Father". You continue to ignore the point that is being made. Just keep being stubborn and ignoring the point then. You are good at that.

In a sense that is true, of course. No one would deny that we go from being dead in our sins to spiritually alive in Christ when we are saved. But, the Greek word translated as "resurrection" in Revelation 20 is "anastasis" and everywhere else that word is used in scripture it refers to a bodily...

What Peter meant to say? LOL. I will go by what he actually said since I am sure he knew exactly what he was saying.

I do believe that Jesus's resurrection itself is the first resurrection, but I don't claim that is all there is to the first resurrection. I believe having part in the first resurrection (Rev 20:6) involves spiritually having part in His resurrection like what is described here: Colossians 2:11...

I don't agree with you on much, but I do agree with this. I mean, the pre-trib rapture theory is so obviously false that even you can recognize that. ;) Yes, the signs Jesus gave were related to the end of the age when Jesus returns, not to a supposed rapture occurring 7 years before the end...