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Still not the point. Our Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us beforehand about the coming events for the end of this world, and that we should pay attention to. He even commanded us to 'watch', and don't allow any man to deceive us. Even though it appears today more on the Pre-trib Rapture...

Paramount Anchor For Revelation Study -- not all the events occur in the order they are written, i.e., the latter part of the 6th Seal is about the day of Jesus' 2nd coming to pour out His wrath upon the wicked, which is the same event of the final 7th Vial, and final 7th Trumpet. Pay attention...

I fail to understand your seeming slackness at n2thelight's point about NT Scripture concerning the coming beast kingdom and dragon over all nations and peoples which our Heavenly Father began warning us about in the Book of Daniel, and which our Lord Jesus and His Apostles repeated in the New...

You are even having a problem with reading comprehension now too. I never said you were speaking of a singular Antichrist, but instead that you try to point to many people with Paul's Message in 2 Thess.2. Paul's context in 2 Thess.2 is still about a singular false Messiah coming to Jerusalem...

I simply quoted Irenaeus from his Against Heresies writing which was against the Gnostic liars of his era.

Paul said no such thing about the Roman Empire being taken away in 2 Thess.2. That is a doctrine from men, and not what Paul was pointing to. Paul's idea was about the false one of verse 3 & 4 being revealed in his time (2 Thess.2:6). Paul's context is about that false one being withheld until...

No, no pope has ever fulfilled that 2 Thess.2 prophecy. Reason is because no pope has ever sat in a physical temple in Jerusalem and exalted himself over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. The context is a singular Antichrist that is to work great signs and wonders, for Paul was...

You're the one doing the religious chattering, by trying to change Paul's context in 2 Thess.2 about the coming "man of sin" and "son of perdition" to a whole bunch of people, which of course is madness. And your madness is getting stronger with your out lashing each time this is shown to you!

Don't have to try and redo everything the KJV translators gave there in 2 Thess.2. It's a simple matter to follow the context, because even the context in the Greek of 2 Thess.2:9 which Jesus comes to destroy reveals Paul was speaking of a singular false one.

Better to read what Irenaeus himself actually said: Irenaeus: 4. "But he indicates the number of the name now, that when this man comes we may avoid him, being aware who he is: the name, however, is suppressed, because it is not worthy of being proclaimed by the Holy Spirit. For if it had been...

The false apostles which Apostle Paul spoke of in 2 Corinthians 11 involve their master Satan who disguises himself as an angel of light. And that is who Paul there pointed to as the "another Jesus". 2 Cor 11:2-4 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one...

The "man of sin", the "son of perdition" of 2 Thess.2, is the devil himself. That is who Apostle Paul was pointing to in 2 Thess.2 coming to work miracles and lying wonders to deceive. The orthodox unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem will worship him as Messiah. Some Christian brethren who are...

I understand foolishness when I see it. Your application of that 1 Cor.2:14 Scripture in no way will modify or change what Apostle Paul warned the Church in 2 Thess.2 about the Wicked one coming to sit in a temple in Jerusalem and exalt himself over all that is called God, or that is worshiped.

That's an application totally... out of the context of Scripture.

I don't know where you are getting the doctrine that Paul was speaking in the plural about the false one in 2 Thess.2 being revealed in his time. The Scripture is not supporting such a view. The context of the "man of sin" being revealed is in the singular, and that's who Paul was referring to...

All you did was prove something equivalent to ink on a page in The Bible. You didn't stay with the actual context and subject of the 2 Thess.2 chapter, and that's the cardinal sin you made. The subject of 2 Thess.2:3-4 is Paul's warning about a false one coming to play God in Jerusalem in a...

The "temple of God" Apostle Paul said the "man of sin" will come to sit in and play God, is NOT the spiritual temple idea of Ephesians. If it was, then it would mean that "man of sin" would have power to corrupt even our Lord Jesus Christ!!! And that since Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone of the...

You haven't proven anything, since Apostle Paul certainly was not 'in The Spirit' when he was busy working for the Pharisees before Jesus converted him. So what I said still stands. A Jew that may be deceived and working for the "synagogue of Satan" may prove to be a true believer in our...

Problem with that is, Apostle Paul's subject linked to that "Wicked" is the one he was speaking of in verses 3 & 4, the "man of sin" and "son of perdition". But nice try though, at attempting to take one little phrase out of a single verse in that 2 Thess.2 chapter and change it, just to...

Religious distraction? Irenaeus is a distraction? You really mean that what he said about a singular Antichrist coming in the last days to sit in a physical temple in Jerusalem is something you don't like to hear. Could that mean you have an agenda agreeing with the Jews who hate anyone pointing...