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  1. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Good questions for another thread.
  2. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    It takes 8 points of tortured logic to reach that conclusion - in TOTAL opposition to Jesus saying only his Father is the true God. How's that logic working out for ya?
  3. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Laps. Laps. Laps. 'For us, there is one God, the Father.' Any interpretation of any verse in Scripture that violates the Sh'ma or this explicit NT verse is obviously incorrect. Your take on John implies, there are 2 God's, which a trinity does not make. On top of that, John 20:31 is explicit...
  4. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Terrible only in that like everything else in Scripture, it destroys your doctrine. Perhaps this translation will be more to your liking. Moses: 4 Listen, Israel! The Eternal is our True God—He alone. VOICE
  5. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Mocking is a poor substitution for discussion and debate. I have seen for myself that Mormons live their life by carrying and sharing the light and salt our Lord gave to us. The doctrinal purity test compared to ones here is getting old. And my observation of Mormons does not mean there are...
  6. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Thanks! Glad I could help. Heaven Going is not an expression I've heard before. Do you mean the idea of us going to heaven or staying on Earth after Judgement Day?
  7. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    You do like to do laps. For us, there is one God, the Father. Can’t be more explicit. What’s the word the word
  8. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Agreed. I did not know who you were referring to because I put David in NJ on ignore a long time ago. Because of your post, I showed the ignored content and found this edifying question worth exploring. I'm glad you asked. The context of this comes up when trinitarians assert the idea that...
  9. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    What an erudite reply. What translation does not identify God, in his unitarian nature, as the giver in John 3:16?
  10. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    The passion for the man-is-god thesis is noted. Observe, the abandonment of the Holy Spirit as Being. God is Spirit. His Spirit is Holy. This does not make God's Spirit a different being. I agree that Jesus is eternal life. However, that does not make him God. Jesus is eternal life only because...
  11. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Right, and the word is a WHAT not a WHO. The words of God are an attribute of God, just as anyone's word's are an attribute of that being. When the President says X, the word of the President does not become an additional being. It's so funny to see people use Middle English to impose a...
  12. Wrangler

    The Only Problem With The Trinity

    The prophet speaks the words God gave him. They are not the prophets words but God's words. See Isaiah "I am the First and the Last." When he said that, everyone knew he was not claiming to be the deity but speaking for him.
  13. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    No, it most certainly does not call the Son the True God! You are confusing who is being referred to by the pronoun 'He.' Look at the verse in context. God. Son of God. Not equal. 18 We all know that everyone fathered by God will not make sin a way of life because God protects His children from...
  14. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Well, no one has to be a master as rhetoric to inherent the kingdom of God. :)
  15. Wrangler

    Is Jesus a Man That God Selected?

    Discovery of truth. I was raised a bad Catholic and recall sitting in the pew as the priest talked about the 1C. The singular pronoun "me" struck me as being as opposed to the doctrine of the trinity as could be. That would have been a wicked good time for God to 'splain hisself; you shall have...
  16. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Contradicts Scripture. Jesus says at John 17:3 that only his Father is the true God.
  17. Wrangler

    John Owen and arminianism

    Why not? It is said Acquinas reconciled Aristotle to Christ, not the other way around. Therefore, the lost might be found by following the logic that Aquinas layed down.
  18. Wrangler

    John Owen and arminianism

    For instance, you seem to be unable to present a concise hypothesis of what this thread is about.
  19. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    What verse states The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the F, S & HS who are co-substantial, co-equal and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this you cannot be saved but will be damned to hell forever? Funny, that another trinitarian told me within the last 24 hours it was not...
  20. Wrangler

    Pat robertson to step down

    No matter your thoughts on him? Like Christ, he provoked controversy. Recently, someone here said if you are fully accepted in this world, you are not advocating properly for Christ. I admit that I did not always agree with him but where we agreed was so much more. I deeply respect this man of...