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That’s like saying you do not have to work to get paid, but when you do work, it’s not really work. That your recieving a weekly paycheck by grace not of works. sorry bro, I listen to the inspired word of God Not the u inspired words of men. you do what you feel you have to

If perfection is required we all lose. God gave us an Abba Father not a spirit of fear.

this is a stretch. Yes in eph 5 he said as christ loved the church. But the mere fact he did not use the word World (kosmos) but he used the word Church (ekklesia) destroys your own point.

michiah, I will not respond to you. You can live in your self righteous pride and refuse to humble yourself. I will not be a part of it. I have refuted your last two posts more times than I can imagine

1 John 1: 8. If we (including himself) claim we have (present tense active) no sin we deceive ourselves and there is no truth in us

So John lied? I will be pure in heart separated from My flesh when I am glorified. Until then as Paul said My flesh lists against the spirit. My flesh is still here. I do Not love as required 100% of the day. No one does if you think you do you are their with Michiah and John says deceived

No one wants to sin But if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves. and there is no truth in us. And if I do sin. I have an abba father a can go to. Because I am his child.. And I do not have to worry about if he will forgive me or not.

If we try to excuse our sin by saying that it was not on purpose. We have some serious issues. Paul said in rom 7 He did what he did not want to do. But he did not make excuses for those sins.

Already answered. You will get a rude awakening one day my friend. I feel sorry for you

I have countered you so many times I lost track.. Humble myself? I am not the one claiming to be perfect. I own my sin. You humble yourself.

I do. If I was you I would sit back and place my faith in God and not worry about what I may or may not do. My eternity is not based on that. God saved me knowing everything I have done and will do.. And he loves me inspite of myself.

Good day sir. Good luck trying to earn your salvation.

My problem is the thought that salvation must be maintained by our works, We can try to convince ourselves we do not believe this by changing it to say lack of work. But where do those lack of works come from, The flesh. Once again. If perfection is required. and we can not be perfect. We can...

I can not agree. We are made mortal beings. If a sinner will cease to exist. He is given a gift. The bible says the worm never dies. 42 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were...

This is contradictory If we can UNEARN or LOSE salvation. then in fact. salvation must be earned. Thats the problem with salvation by law or legalism One MUST confirm to a standard. If he confirms to that standard he is ok. If he does not confirm he is guilty God said the standard is...

YOU know nothing of the gospel You cant do anything to earn it before you are saved you certainly can not do anything after to earn it It is solely of grace through faith period. As paul said. Are you foolish.

I have asked I have looked at the whole picture I have shared the whole picture with you. You keep ignoring the words of God and the apostles and making them liars. if we are secure ONLy if we do something, then we are trying to earn salvation by our works. or as paul calls it the flesh. At...

So you do not think hell is forever?

There are a lot of guilt to pass around here in both the Roman and England church, even the church I grew up in did some questionable stuff. I just wrote it off to these are my leaders and they know more then me so I just looked away I think we get brainwashed by leaders and blindly follow...

John did not lie so you want to make John a liar and Jesus a liar, then call me a cult you have pride issues my friend, you want people to have conditional life. Well that’s fine, God gives eternal life, so I will seek out God, because you have nothing to offer me