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  1. Wrangler

    Why I'm Not a Theist Anymore

    This is an illogical juxtaposition. The idea of changing the standard of proof AGAINST a more impactful reality is hateful in the extreme. Said differently, the same standard of proof for accepting what you deem the least impact should be the EXACT SAME as the most impactful fact. A is A. Facts...
  2. Wrangler

    Why I'm Not a Theist Anymore

    Oh, what is an effective way to prove the validity of the accounts written about Jesus?
  3. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Interestingly, my pastor invoked this very passage to reinforce the notion that the law does not apply to us. The opening parenthetical expression, 'Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given' makes it clear the law applies to some and not others. What is your take on this part of...
  4. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    What gave that away? LOL
  5. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Interesting. Where is that in Scripture? I'd love to give that for my Pastor's consideration. He also said something else that didn't sit well with me; that we are not Abraham's spiritual children.
  6. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Simple. God is Sovereign. Things can be anyway he wants them to be. Just because He set things to be one way, does not mean he could not have made other choices. Consider why there are multiple covenants? God could have kept us under the law. My Pastor says the law only applied to Jews and not...
  7. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    False Alternative. The Bible says Jesus is a man selected by God, sent by God, was told what to say by God, submitted to the will of God who died and that God resurrected him. Even Rev 1:1 states the resurrected Jesus received a revelation from God! Furthermore, the Bible says the Father is the...
  8. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    What an odd question and totally irrelevant for the point does not hinge on who we are but death. The Bible says over and over again that Jesus died. Your doctrine does not accept this because of your doctrine. 2 Cor 1:13 explicitly states there is no hidden meaning in the Apostles writings...
  9. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Totally wrong and completely illogical. Where is this in the Bible? And I'm not JW. This is right and logical. The only reason you and I are out of our sins is because Jesus is not God for he is our only mediator to God. (Unless you mean something else by 'still in your sins') Of course, to...
  10. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    Irrelevant for this thread is about our actions - and motives - not God's.
  11. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    Understood. John 3:16 has nothing to do with this thread. Just another attempt on your part to change the subject, the burden you have to slay your idolized doctrine. There is no equality between doctrinal purity and love. Not only is that explicit in 1 Corinthians 13:12-13, you know there is...
  12. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    Mainly because we disagree on every single point. Indeed, we are communicating effectively. Every SINGLE time you disregard loving those whose doctrine is not the same as yours but defend the wonders of truth, we disagree. Scripture is annoyingly unqualified in our burden to love others. This...
  13. Wrangler

    Why I'm Not a Theist Anymore

    Unable to have an actual conversation. Don't risk independent thought, just defer. In logic, Appeal to Diversion.
  14. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    God did no such thing. Acts 17:31 informs us that God chose the man Jesus. This is not at all the same as God became incarnate. The worse part of the trinity doctrine is that it undermines Jesus achievement and sacrifice. Jesus died. Not in form or other appearance of non-death. It is really a...
  15. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Agreed but it seems to contradict to the rest of your post. This makes no sense. For 1,000's of years sacrifices were atonement for people's sins. If you want to add truly to the sentence, it changes nothing. It's just that a new covenant was put in place, not a more truer covenant. This new...
  16. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    Clearly, you are putting nouns (truth) above verbs (love). Your doctrine contradicts Scripture. I know it is hard for you to destroy your idol, your idolized doctrine. 12 For now, we can only see a dim and blurry picture of things, as when we stare into polished metal. I realize that...
  17. Wrangler

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Only his body part? Either he died or he didn’t.
  18. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    There is no but. Truth is a noun. Love is a verb. If your ‘truth’ denigrates image beaters of God, you have sinned against God and man.
  19. Wrangler

    Loving Those With Different Doctrines

    Agreed. However, you are judging others in violation of Ja 4:11-12. The Spirit of God is discerning and Ecclesiastes informs us there are different season to do opposite things. A time to save and a time to kill. One with little understanding will not grasp how doing these opposite things IS in...