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New birth, it is how one is born again

There is nothing about the Bible that says don’t sin and you might get to heaven either if anything that is satanic see, it goes both ways

Matt 24 is NT about eternal salvation, it’s about those who go through tribulation as for the jews who came out of Egypt, what did they do that made you think they had faith in God

the problem is there are thousands of areas we need to trust God in. I can have almost perfect faith in half of them. Alot of faith in many more and week in faith in others. That is the issue.

I have never heard anyone. Even people I would classify as Licentiousness. Call sin good.

Is this why you believe what you believe? It is silly to attach someone who disagrees with you in this way. when this same argument can be made against you.

if anyone teach a different gospel..... Amen

Again. These would be licentious. Whom Jude thoroughly defeated with his words. I would not relate these with eternally secure believers (OSAS)

There is no such thing as X believers. 1. John said they were never of us 2. We stop believing only because the person loses trustworthyness. ie. They fail us. When did God fail a person.. it saddens me anyone can think Gd will fail people so bad they would lose faith.

You need to practice what you preach my friend, I have not even been watching you or made any comments to you yet you showed your true self yesterday calling me a name. So your just making excuses as I have told you before, you do not have any idea what we who place our security in Christ...

Amen, they needs to call it the biblical name, licentiousness. It has nothing to do with OSAS which is not even a doctrine, I never heard it until I went to chat rooms instead they want to put us all under the same name and claim we all believe the same, which is not true

Yeah I can see this, The problem is they have Bee told by numerous people, and the fact they continue to do it, I think shows that to be true

Remember, Others see your posts also. Even if they do not respond. So you can still help others..

Amen. It is not even a thread that is realistic. Licentiousness had been around from the beginning of the church. it is not new. And its not OSAS. No matter how they try to make it claim it is. Most of the stuff they accuse us of is not even true. But they can't see it. Its sad.

120 years of grace. And THEY said no. God did not force them to say no. or keep the truth from them, He put it in front of them. so they had no excuse. God's Longsuffering in this case is no question about freedom to chose.

God has a perspective we do not have. God knows if they will change or repent. So he has the ability to judge, even the judgment of the flood. We do not have that ability, nor should we try to judge Gods motive.

God did reveal the truth. That why paul says in romans 1. they have no excuse. As paul also said in same chapter. THEY hid the truth, and exchanged it for a lie

You can not have a relationship without free will. A true relationship takes two people. The bible says God is love. And he created us to love as he loves. You can not truly love a person unless you give them the freedom to receive your love or reject your love. We see this in creation. God...

Need to go back to the OT. When Moses Consecrated the priest. they were washed in the Jordan river (baptized) then after the sacrifice. They were anointed with the Holy Oil. (even Arron went through this ceremony as High Priest. Only he had a few differences. Jesus here is fulfilling that type...