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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    Did you even read the passage I quoted, which was John 5:28-29? It doesn't even mention "the last day". He said in that passage that a time (not times) is coming when all of the dead will be raised. You, on the other hand, believe that multiple times or days are coming when the dead will be...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    Why would anyone think that Christ would come to be glorified in his saints and admired in all them that believe at some other time than the event described in 1 Thess 4:14-17? That makes no sense. He will come both WITH and FOR His saints at the same time. He will come WITH the souls of the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    Why do you speak in riddles? Just get to the point already. What are you trying to say here? There's no reason to be mysterious about it.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    So, you don't accept what Jesus taught here then? John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    It looks like you are the one who is confused with your false pre-trib rapture doctrine that cannot be supported by scripture whatsoever. Christ will come with the souls of the dead in Christ and their bodies will be resurrected at that time. You probably think the following is talking about a...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    No, it doesn't. Scripture clearly teaches that all of the dead in Christ will be resurrected at the same time when Christ returns. That is VERY clear. You can see that in 1 Thess 4:14-17 as well. You are trying too hard if you can't see something as obvious as that. I don't know what you're...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    If you believe these are the end times, why do you not also believe great apostacy has come?

    No one should understand Paul that way. Paul was talking about the order of resurrections unto bodily immortality and indicated that Christ's was first in order. Next in order are all of the dead who belong to Christ. They will be resurrected at His second coming in the future. At that point the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Conflating Jesus' Second Coming with the Scorched Earth is not possible

    No, I do not. I do not appreciate your false accusations. If I misstate something you've said then it would only be by mistake. I am a Christian. I believe in having integrity. So, I have not done what you falsely accuse me of doing. How have I done that? You keep saying this without...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Millennialism proven by that man of sin

    What do you mean exactly here? If the destruction is not by fire, then what will cause it instead? Once He comes it will happen as fast as a lightning flash (Matt 24:27). But, how will He destroy His enemies? If not with fire then with what?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Millennialism proven by that man of sin

    What do you mean by this exactly? We all understand that real events are sometimes described with symbols. If that's what you're saying then...yeah, no kidding. Or are you saying something else?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Millennialism proven by that man of sin

    He did not add that! Did you not bother even reading the text? Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Millennialism proven by that man of sin

    Okay, what other scripture do you have then?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Millennialism proven by that man of sin

    Amillennialists don't believe that Satan's binding has anything to do with Satan being "shut up from tempting man to sin on earth today", so you are arguing with a straw man here. That is a complete waste of time. Learn what we actually believe first and then you can talk. We don't say that...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Spiritual Millennialism is not with Satan shut up

    Okay, now I have done that in posts 48 and 49. You should be embarrassed for misrepresenting what we Amillennialists believe so badly.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Spiritual Millennialism is not with Satan shut up

    No one believes this. You have not made any effort to understand what Amillennialists believe. So, you end up saying nonsense like this that doesn't reflect what we believe (or anyone else for that matter). We don't say that the resurrection is past already. Full preterists do, but not...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Spiritual Millennialism is not with Satan shut up

    Amillennialism does not teach that Satan is literally shut up in a pit and not able to tempt anyone on the earth. We don't take Revelation 20 literally like you do, so we don't believe it's talking about literally binding a spirit being with a literal chain like you do. You should take some time...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Spiritual Millennialism is not with Satan shut up

    LOL. Premils often do away with the plain meaning of scripture. Such as John 5:28-29 which shows all of the dead being resurrected at the same time/hour. And passages like Matthew 13:40-43, Matthew 13:47-50 and Matthew 25:31-46 which show all people being judged at the same time. And passages...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Conflating Jesus' Second Coming with the Scorched Earth is not possible

    Do you mean "changed" instead of "resurrected"? Living saints can't be resurrected since they aren't dead.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Conflating Jesus' Second Coming with the Scorched Earth is not possible

    LOL. What? Who made you the ultimate authority on what is supposedly plainly written or not? The Lord reigns now over all things. When He returns at the end of the age, He will deliver His kingdom to the Father (1 Cor 15:22-24, Matthew 13:40-43). I consistenly back up my view with scripture...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Our hope for the Future

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. How...