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OK. The but monkey got me and that is all I could hear. So, while it is good that you do admit that people DO come to Christ through the many Protestant denominations, your BUT MONKEY stopped from answering my question. How your view is to abandon these millions of people who come to Christ...

See my thread on Evidence to be Seen

Yet, when asked how to pray, Jesus did not say TO any ol’ Person is AOK.

It’s so odd that you object to the fact that several men in the Bible were worshipped but are AOK with praying to anyone - EVEN THOUGH Jesus said to pray only to God, the Father, in Heaven.

Then why did intercession of saints come up? The objection is not praying FOR but praying TO. You know that.

Your ‘answer’ has nothing to do with my question. Putting aside all your caustic, holier-than—thou criticism, which is a lot to set aside, it is almost AS IF you are implying there could be a hint of good with those rascally, disobedient Protestant groups you despise so much. Correct me if I...

I’m a little confused. You are not a believer in God’s Anointed, Jesus?

I think the proper foundation is: 3. Spiritual 2. Mental 1. Physical (including financial) It’s hard to grasp Aristotle's Syllogisms when suffering severe stomach and head aches. And you certainly cannot be at peace spiritually when the bills aren’t paid and there is no food for you or your...

I am confident the HS does not consider major doctrines to be the same as you. And your reply totally side steps my question. Not surprising. Most traditionalists would rather people not come to Christ if they don’t first embrace your IDOL, so called major doctrines.

You don’t see how this directly contradicts Scripture, which says Jesus is our only mediator to God?

Obviously, we doubt because God mostly hides his presence - and even existence.

Yes. If the HS tells Jesus to go to the desert and Paul to the sea, both act according to divine guidance. A question I’ve asked but got an answer to is how your view abandons the millions of people who come to Christ through the literally tens of thousands of Protestant sects? It is a False...

Yes, Jesus did teach that. He told us to pray to God this way. Our Father, who art in heaven ... He never said to pray to anyone else, certainly not TO fellow men, believers though they be.

Just because you don’t like the answer, doesn’t mean you did not get an answer. Summarize the unanswered part of your question. This should be good.

I spelled out the math. If 1/12 is the whole, then bless your heart.

Non-sequitor. There is such abounding illogic in your posts, there is no logical place to begin to respond to the fact that Saints are not God and I don’t pray to anyone but God - as Jesus taught.

Circular Reasoning. All contracts and covenants have T’s & C’s.

You know that is not true. Today, merely 1/4 of the worlds population even identify as Christian. Of those, only 1/3 resemble the practicing variety, at best. So, 11/12 of the world are not the active church.

I'm just wondering if @theefaith feels after 24 pages he got his question answered?

I kind of wish this thread was a poll of what is the biggest divider is. To my way of thinking baptism is but a symbol, like having a wedding ring. As a married man, I generally want to wear it. Sometimes when I do hard physical work, I take the ring off (to protect the ring and my finger). It...