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What’s truthful is you are defensive. And if you really trusted god and were secure you could not care less what I said.

And you cannot read this and see your preaching conditional life not eternal? How?

You can’t judge osas when you have no idea what it is. and yes, you judge me, stop excusing your sin

Hence we would be under law not under grace. good luck with that

Yep written to christians, work out the salvation you have, it’s like working out the good and silver you are mining to make it usefull what it does not say. work to earn your future possible salvation sorry but you again have failed to show me I am in error

As I said, you are trying t make your salvation conditional on your ability to persevere, call it whatever you want, it’s conditional salvation

So God gives us faith by his power. But we can overpower him and reject of our own power again, do you listen to yourself?

What you heard. please learn the difference no one has ever been saved because they HEARD they truth.

Again, I want to see John Calvin use the word osas. can you please show me? calvin taught irresistible grace and double predestination, apart fro. Free will.he taught that we could never come to faith anyway, it is of god, so if we could not come to it, we will never leave it. I know of very...

Yeah you keep telling me that, yet with no proof. So what you are doing is arguing what you heard or were told and not what people actually believe. it’s like the old calvin vs arminian debate. Anyone who believes In eternal security must be calvins, anyone who does not must be arminian (or...

Actually he is saying u like those who left. Let that which you HEARD remain in you he never said they accepted it in faith, like all churches and like all epistles, we do not assume everyone reading or attending our church is saved, you always assume someone might be there who has not come...

So you have the power to turn and reject what god started, to overcome God and walk away because he is not faithful. I do not think you understand what your saying my friend,

Oh I saw the truth, 40 years ago, you have not shown me anything to counter that truth, yet you still attack me as if I am lost,

The Bible tells us it is our knoweldge we have eternal life that empowers us to continue to believe, it’s on Christ, not us 1 John 5: 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son. 10 He who believes in the...

Then it’s conditional on you having the power to keep believing and not turn against the truth that saved you in the first place. and again, if your belief was so weak you could not continue to trust in eternal life based on the cross. Was it Ever true faith to begin with? my answer is no,,

smh I give up. I can tell you 2+2 = 4 a million times, if you do not believe it you never will

I think you admire yourself, so much you can’t see your own flaws.

So your going to tell me that a belief I have held for over 40 years is not what I think. I mean really my friend that’s quite arrogant, eternal life and eternal security was around long before calvin, calvin spoke of perseverance of the saints, it was not even osas. I do not believe he ever...

With all do respect this can’t be true if you trust someone, by practice you will do what they say, if you really trust them you will by reaction tend to want to be like the, it’s not an emotional response, faith equals assurance or confidence. Action is not part of the definition, the...

I am playing a game with a kid, his name is Charlie24. He attacks anyone who disagrees with them and cuts them down. So I treat him as he treats others, I guess Charlie does not like it. Like most kids