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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are mistaken. The rest of the dead are contrasted with those from verse 4 who have part in the first resurrection. What you're not understanding here is that the first sentence of Revelation 20:5 is a parenthetical statement. Translations like the NIV even put it in parentheses. The second...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But, it indicates that those who have part in the first resurrection live and reign with Christ during the thousand years. With that being the case, how can the first resurrection not occur until the last day? Yes, we agree that all people, saved and lost, will be bodily resurrected at...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    According to Paul the promises God made to Abraham and his seed were made to Christ and those who belong to Christ (Galatians 3:16,29). Why do you have the promises to Abraham and his seed applying to Israel and other nations when Paul taught they apply to Christ and His followers? Do you not...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have no idea how anyone can come to that conclusion after reading passages like 2 Peter 3:10-12 and 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. You have to just ignore those passages in order to come to the conclusions that the day of the Lord refers to a long period of time.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Which rhetorical question are you talking about? You keep referring to it without telling me what it is. I'm sorry, but you are just terrible at communicating. It is not automatic for someone to repent. God doesn't force or coerce anyone to repent. But, again, I don't wish to turn this into a...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have no problem getting what you were saying. Because of having part in Christ's resurrection by going from being spiritually dead in sins to spiritually alive in Christ, as Jesus talked about in John 5:24-25, the second death has no power over us. People should read a verse like Revelation...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I've already explained this MANY times and you're still asking me this? Unbelievable. What is the reason you can't remember what I've said all the other times I've explained this to you? Why should I think you will pay attention this time? I've said MANY times that I don't believe anyone gets...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    This is your man-made rules. Can you show me any scripture which supports this approach? You certainly won't find any support for it in 1 Corinthians 2:9-16. What does this even mean? You're acting as if all of scripture is written in literal, straightforward text. You know that isn't true. So...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't use the same literal methods of interpretation that you do, so that doesn't apply to me. Almost all Premils will say that if it doesn't clearly indicate that it's symbolic then it should be interpreted literally. But, when it comes to a passage like 2 Peter 3:10-12 that interpretive rule...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I already have proved you wrong. Why can't you understand why applying the term "replacement theology" annoys me then? You should be able to understand that. How are you not doing that with me? You are doing exactly that. Are you kidding? I have explained that MANY times. This is my opportunity...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't make that claim. I don't believe that the church has replaced Israel. I believe they are two separate entities. Yeah, so? Some spiritual Israelites are ethnic Israelites and some are ethnic Gentiles. There's nothing logical about accusing me of believing in replacement theology. You are...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where is any of this indicated in passages like 2 Peter 3:10-13 or 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3? In those passages they strongly give the impression that there will be complete destruction of the heavens and the earth when the day of the Lord arrives. The destruction will be so complete to the point...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    After all this time you have argued with us Amils, you don't even know what we believe? You have to be kidding me. You should educate yourself about what others believe before debating them. How can you know that our view is wrong if you don't even know or understand what we believe? Anyway...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Looks like he reads our posts as carefully as he reads scripture (not very).
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Amil doctrine is founded on literal, straightforward passages like Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 28:18, John 5:28-29, 2 Peter 3:10-13, Acts 17:31, 1 Thess 4:14-5:6 and 2 Thess 1:7-10. So, your claims about Amil are out of ignorance.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You should answer objections by using scripture and telling us how you interpret the scripture. Instead, in most of your posts, you make all kinds of claims left and right without explaining how you come to your conclusions. Take your post #2829, for example. You said "Look again. Peter is...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You're not understanding the point. The true or spiritual children of Abraham includes both ethnic Israelite believers and Gentiles. One's nationality has nothing to do with being a spiritual child of Abraham, as Paul indicated in Galatians 3:26-29. So, no one was saying that there aren't some...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It plainly says that He explained and interpreted the scriptures that concerned Him. Was He explaining and interpreting things that they already understood? No way. Why would He do that? That would be a waste of time. Yes, they should have understood, but they didn't, so He had to explain it to...