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Twinc, twinc, are you being sarcastic or presumptious? I did not quote the first great commandment, but if you looked at a Bible you would see it printed just before the one I did quote in Matthew: "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy...

@pastorjagan I am praying that God will be with you to accomplish all of your needs.

I am not really getting into this discussion. Rather below I have quoted the words of an Eastern Orthodox Catholic priest which he posted on another forum a couple of years ago. It is quite different that most of the explanations I have heard on the subject so I kept a copy of it:

Guilty as charged!

I did understand, but sometimes our accidental miscommunications do communicate something we did not intend. In the world do they not speak of Freudian slips? Perhaps this is similar to that?

:):D And so we keep on smiling even if we are still children too... or is it because in a real sense we really are still children?

"And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye...

I really do keep trying not to be deceived, but the old flesh of me keeps on popping up his ugly head. Help us all dear Lord.

Consider the Body of Christ: If I am an ear and you are a foot, then you had best leave hearing to me and I had best leave walking to you. If in that scenario I am hearing and you are walking then we are both right. Everyone who is not reprobate has a glimmer of light given. To follow the...

Absolutely! I do speak in tongues, but it is between me and God because for me that is the purpose. Other people, even where I attend services, as I see it, misuse and abuse it and criticize others for not letting their tongues be heard it public.

Thank you twinc! May God richly bless you as you walk with Him.

Yes, Jesus did this, but he was able to discern the heart of the man and acted accordingly. He never got it wrong whereas you and I and these others here you are calling liars, must learn to hold back the sharpness of our tongues until we are as He is.

Oh, my dear twinc, it is a person's own heart he must careful about. That is where the worst of deceptions lie. When it comes to other people treat them always with love even if they don't seem to be loveable. Remember the second greatest commandment: "And the second is like unto it, Thou...

After dealing with twinc for so long, I should not be so ignorant as to get caught up in something that I have never anyone unravel. God help me!

OK twinc, I will then leave it alone. I understand your final point, but you never made a point one way or the other with regard to your original question.

I understand your definitions and the verses you quoted. My point is that communication often fails because people use the words the way they do without making sure the other guy understands what you are saying.

Why do you twist people's words instead to looking for what is really in their hearts? What was meant is that there some people within those groups you seemingly reject completely who have a better attitude [spirit] with regard to the things most important to God than the attitude [spirit] of...

In a way I guess it may come back to the left hand of God. People who think they are Christians, or at least want people to believe that they are Christians, probably don't want the possibility of deception on their part [purposeful or not] it to be discussed publicly. [But... maybe God does.]...

When you are the only one with the answers, who else can? Who else should? People kept asking Jesus questions. Sometimes they were intended to trip him, but they never succeeded in that. Jesus also asked questions and provided answers when they made a difference. Does your question in the OP...

Ah now you would put words into my mouth. I have never claimed to know more than you or this John MacArthur. What I and others were hoping was that you would answer your own question expressed in the OP. I did not know nor do I now know the answer. Presumably you do, but if so you are...