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I have not surrendered to sin I have surrendered to loving others but I do not think i am perfect at it, so I continue to run the race to get better at it

No that’s the truth you said saints do not so , I proved they did and do, and this is your response? gods requirement is perfection. you will not meet that standard until you get to heaven so instead of being a pharisee and pumping my chest of how great I am, and am going to do what is...

No, it is the sin of unbelief

He states they can not habitually continue in sin. if a believe could never sin again, then we would be perfect the moment we were saved, and there would be no growing pains, what you saying makes no sense

So I take it king david, and abraham, and yes even peter were not saints? Since all commited willful sin (peter having to be called out by Paul)

so you excuse your sin? that’s good to know

No, that’s twisting johns word

why don’t you stick to what we were discussing to begin with you state we are saved first. I have been showing that is not true, you can’t change the topic midstream

If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves I am saddened by those who are decieved into thinking they they have no sin

Ignorance is not knowing something is sin this happens to new believers that’s different by committing a sin you know is sin, then declaring it was an accident yet even those sins, by defenition, makes you guilty, as you see, even that sin needed atoned. all have sinned, that includes you...

Lol, our conversation started with you declareing that salvation comes first. that’s our discussion let’s stick with it

Yep that same. Hope you are well also

Or maybe your not paying attention to me I am talking about repentance which leads to faith which leads to salvation

History shows they did not repent, cut and dry is true

John said we can’t live In sin, if we can’t live as we did before we were saved we will not fall out of salvation

Have we met before? In another chatroom?

Um wrong, we do not sin by mistake, that’s a cop out, take credit for your sins man.

Lol, so Isreal must repent but you do not have to? Lol. I have heard everything now

1 John 3: 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

If I have to, then I am under law not grace I better be perfect. Because the first sin I commit I have forfeited my salvation and there is no hope