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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Nope obedience is a given not a requirement Once again, you need to listen to John 1 John 3: Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    He gives it to all acts 5 does not negate what John 3 and other passages say. as Jesus said it will go first to Israel, then Samaria, then the ends of the earth (to us)
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    please do not insult me by twisting my words. I never stated we will not be obedient, in fact scripture teachers otherwise, As joh said whoever sins has never seen god whoever is born of god can not live in sin. I am against the thought that obedience has any part in ones eternal life.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Are you perfect? If not you have failed to be obedient enough As hames said one can be perfect in all things and stumble in one point he is guilty You can never be good enough to earn salvation
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    He gives to all who believe. Read John 3 4 6 and many other passages
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    He offers it to all not all will obey that’s why they have no excuse
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    1 enduring to the end speaks if people living in tribulation period and enduring until Christ returns. That people will survive the tribulation and be saved work out salvation it is a salvation you have not one your trying to earn you can not earn salvation my friend if you could Christ died...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Yep but I still had to chose. I could have rejected. And God gets the credit either way
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Yep and repentance and faith in god is not a work I can’t take credit in trusting a person who is able to completely save me the credit goes To the savior
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    That passage is talking about the tribulation period and physical life salvation is a one time event. But the process to being you to that event may take awhile
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    I give credit to God. If he did not draw me I never would have repented. If he did not teach me and help Me understand I would never have repented if he did not die for me I would never have a means to repent he did the work to empower me to repent and by it I am saved
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    No error. No one comes to Faith apart from repentance and no one is saved apart from faith what you state is true in that I was reconciled to god by his death. But that does not negate I am saved by faith
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    So we can not earn it to get it, but to keep it we must earn it is this not a backdoor entrance into works salvation? ie, God gives us a down payment, then tells us we must earn it or he will take it back,
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Those are descriptive verses not prescriptive gods people are not required to obey, they by nature do, as apposed to those who are not god, who by nature do not,
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    God allowed obedience to the gospel he did not Cause it, if this is true he caused people to reject and go to hell, thus any possibility of any real relationship with anyone is destroyed, we are all robots
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    No, you do, see above
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    One can not be saved in sin one can not be forgiven of sin apart fro. Justification one can not be justified apart from faith no one will ever come to faith unless they truly repent. you seem to have things backwards my friend
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    I believe in this and other of these types of conversations Jesus was trying to get them to think. moses required that the children of Isreal confirm each command and and to follow every letter. Failure to do this brought about a curse (see also gal 3 where paul shows this) this person and...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    If Baptism could save then there is no need for the shed Blood of Jesus.

    One must wonder how abraham got saved, and moses and king david, since they were never baptized.