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  1. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    The verses quoted in Isaiah 28 [post #56] touch on the tongues. Precise analogies in OT may be hard or even impossible to find, but there are several which together at least hint at it for me. Some are: In Genesis the dreams of Joseph and those of Pharaoh which Joseph interpreted. In Daniel...
  2. amadeus

    Hello, Glad To Be Here With All Of You.

    @JAG* Welcome to the forum.
  3. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    Yes, people sometimes do not realize that the tongues are also, as I understand it, only one stepping stone, which is not on everyone's pathway. What I see in tongues is a clear relationship between them and the parables Jesus told. His explanation of why he spoke in parables could also be an...
  4. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    Each of who is following the Lord must follow the precise pathway on which He leads us. I started speaking in tongues when I was in the UPC. When I arrived in the UPC my only background was Catholic and I had never read the Bible. In the UPC I was taught also to read the Bible. When I became...
  5. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    Good words. When I was a practicing Catholic, I had never heard of tongues. While working for the Social Security Administration in San Francisco many years ago an already old tongue talker and a member of the UPC I met an active Catholic charismatic who worked there as well. We formed a group...
  6. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    Actually I believe that the place to observe it is the place that God says is the right place. At times that is where people gather together "in His name". Each of us needs to be aware that what we do even "in His name" may offend others. The key is to be in tune with what God wants and then go...
  7. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    :):( Oh, sister, I am very careful about my beliefs on anything. I strive not to condemn or reward beyond what God would have me to do. Only what is in my job description is what I work to do. You apparently presume that I am wrong. :( In fact I have been wrong too many times in the past to...
  8. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    Thanks, that one worked. I skimmed it quickly and was favorably impressed. When I have more time I will try to read it more carefully. Thank you for your assistance.
  9. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    I would guess that you are unwilling to let me stay where I am and leave it be because you disagree. So then you open up another can of worms. "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done...
  10. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    As you already know I do not believe in eternal torment for anyone, much less for children or others who never attained a point where they were really accountable. My use of the OT was for types and shadows of what the truth of the matter is when we have left this temporal world. In this world...
  11. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    Yes, something like that, but it is quite serious, I believe. Even if I am wrong in my conclusions, there is no doubt that what a parent does or does not do makes a great deal of difference to a child.
  12. amadeus

    Church

    Indeed ,it is theirs, but I am afraid you have decided that God's understanding of the matter rests in the RCC. I, on the other hand, believe that it is not in the RCC nor in any other organized Christian church on the planet. The right or wrong of a person direction or position or belief...
  13. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    No, we cannot. We can only learn from it what God wants us to learn. Odd or not, it makes us realize that it is unlikely that any man has or any men have all of the answers. God wants us to trust Him and I do. I purposely usually avoid getting into a discussion on this issue because I don't...
  14. amadeus

    Church

    Construe it as you will. The decision for the ones I described is neither your nor mine, but God's.
  15. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    There many more OT verses, but they are not going to change this. N.T.? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 Children cannot believe? God is not killing the children. Their...
  16. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    Presumption is perhaps not the best word to use. That also I guess depends a lot upon a person's beliefs or point of view. My belief on this came long ago. It started probably with the Amalekites: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay...
  17. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    God's power unrestricted is unlimited, but He cannot break His own Word. He has restricted Himself by His own Word in certain things. This is why men are able to go against God. God gave them the dominion. In order for Him to help them, THEY must allow Him to do so. Can God save a baby from the...
  18. amadeus

    Did Speaking In Tongues Pass Away With The Early Church ?

    "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:" I Cor 12:10 On studying this before I found at least three types of tongues in scripture which might be included in "divers...
  19. amadeus

    What is wrong with this picture?

    All born to natural mothers are dead to God until they receive the Life which Jesus is. If they do not, then they would it seems to me remain dead forever. This is not a punishment but rather the continuation of effectively nothing. They started with nothing and ended with the same thing, like...
  20. amadeus

    Why Are We Here?

    We are here, but where is here? Where is God in relation to us? Is He not everywhere and therefore also here? "The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good." Prov 15:3 "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up...