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  1. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus Christ?

    You do know that beings are not words, right? It is figurative language referring to God's words. The beginning that John is referring to is that of Jesus ministry - just like the other 3 Gospels. Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God Matthew 2:5-6 They told him...
  2. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Strawman. Ignore Matthew 7:21 at your own risk. In The Chosen there was an episode that began with Moses making the bronze snake. Upon looking at it, they were saved through that act of faith. The character Jesus said it is the same with him. Jesus is the Savior but even you admit universalism...
  3. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Thanks for that. Trinitarians want to pretend the figurative John 1:1 is the end all be all. Keep reading and you find John writes many of the most damning verses in all of Scripture AGAINST trinitarianism. John 17:22 & 20:17 are proof texts. Of course to get around this, trinitarians...
  4. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus Christ?

    You don't recognize figurative language when you read it? Beings are not words. There is no God Word, only God the Father. His word became flesh. This is not the same at all as trinitarians suppose God incarnate. As Moses put it in Dt 18:15-18, God will put his words in a prophet he chooses...
  5. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    Then there are those pesky non-symbolic verses.
  6. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    You cannot read or comprehend Matthew 7:21 & John 15:1-2. You remind me of a conversation I had with my ex-girlfriend about commitment. I told her that she is not giving me credit for being faithful 5 days a week for the last 2 years. LOL This demonstrates what faithfulness is not! The standard...
  7. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Hierarchy. Who sent Jesus? Not 'the Father' but God, in his unitarian nature. John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not to do my own will.
  8. Wrangler

    Once Saved Always Saved

    You keep ignoring Matthew 7:21. It is not mere belief but faith, which includes actually doing the will of Jesus' God in heaven. It's disgusting to suppose the Gates of Heaven will be breached by mere lip service.
  9. Wrangler

    Jesus never said he was God Almighty

    Established councils is what established God's Word. Or do you consider Apocrypha to also be God's word? Where do you think the Bible came from?
  10. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Moving the Goal post. You asked if God is called the Father in the OT. He was. You just want to deny it AS IF it even makes a difference.
  11. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    tsr, the intention of this thread is to strengthen the case against the trinity. Please make sure future posts aim at that objective. Thanks! The trinity is a 4th century man-made construct. Jesus did not teach us to pray to three persons. Yes, 'One person equals one essence' is a rationally...
  12. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    And he will call out to me, ‘You are my Father, my God, and the Rock of my salvation.’ Psalm 89:26
  13. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus Christ?

    LORD ≠ Lord. The LORD God is our Creator. The Bible has many lords (lowercase) besides Lord Jesus and there are many lords outside of the Bible, e.g., Lord Vader, Lord Voldemort, Lord Cornwallis. Jesus was chosen by God, sent by God, told what to say by God, raised from the dead by God and given...
  14. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    Wow are you in denial. Below are examples of me quoting: Deutoronomy 18:15-18 1 Corinthians 8:6 Mark 12:29, 32 John 17:3 Can't answer my questions about Scripture huh?
  15. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    The Bible rightly calls God the Father. There is not a single instance in the Bible were it is phrase God the Son or God the Holy Spirit. according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood:May...
  16. Wrangler

    Watching the Marxists try to pack the court!

    And you've been indoctrinated to suppose giving evil a voice is a good thing? Why not make all the countries in the world States of the US? The answer is admitting communist leaning territories is not in freedom loving America's best interest. (The parallel here is the South wanted slavery to...
  17. Wrangler

    Watching the Marxists try to pack the court!

    jaybird, On theological matters, we are very much aligned but I can tell from your posts in this thread that when it comes to politics, you and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum and that you are VERY naive. You asked about how Democrats hurt your paycheck. Increase in taxes, regulations...
  18. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    What are women responsible for? TLHKAJ, can you give men credit for making civilization what it is? Or is your mind fixated only on the negative qualities of men? Should men take your lead and only admit the negative aspects of women? Is that why Christ died? For your sake, I pray you...
  19. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    Yes, by NOT telling her no, to NOT eat the forbidden fruit. Eve committed the first sin. But the first sin was by omission from Adam.