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There are no such instances of this. a true believer is sealed the moment of faith. So it is a false idea to begin with, which makes the question nonsensibe

I see no conditions written here in which the seal can be broken, I see a definitive WERE SEALED a completed action.

Jesus said, WHOEVER eats the bread I will give them WILL never die You claim in what you have said, Jesus said whoever eats the bread that He will give MAY never die (in your words they also have to do what ever else you claim Jesus said we have to do if we really want to live forever) These...

Amen, Wonder if him and Paul are sharing their life stories to each other now!

He spoke at our church a few years ago. Loved his messages in person or on the radio. Will be sorely missed!

WHAT?? Wow. Rest in peace. I loved listening to him! He is at rest with his savior now!

c'mon You do not know who the pharisees are?

Does not mean you were right You can believe this if you want. It does not remove my fear

Genesis 10:8 Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. This nimrod? who is also this nimrod? Genesis 10:8 Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth.

Which nimrod?

The book of Jasher?

I rest my case

The pharisee used the same argument so yes I do believe is arrogant to think you are right and everyone else is wrong. Just saying. also. It shuts down conversation. No one wants to converse with someone who thinks they know it all.

Yes,, As he rose, we shall rise also..

vs 9 does not tell us how to be saved, it tells ys how to restore fellowship John is speaking to already saved believers..

1st stop assuming things. It gets old 2nd. Stop thinking you have all knowledge its arrogant for anyone to think they have arrived to all knowledge they are right and everyone else is wrong 3rd. Yes jesus could do it in this life. by removing our free will.. I praise God he left my will in...

Did someone actually say this is what they teach? :eek:

Ok Kiddo I am going to explain this one more time JESUS SAID WHOEVER EATS THIS BREAD WILL NEVER DIE, I take Jesus at his word. If we can eat his bread and still die, JESUS LIED.

agai, the word perfect can be translated mature If Job and Samuel were sinless (not true) then they are the only two who ever earned salvation and did not need Christ.

excuse me 2: 14 or whatever passage you quoted