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If you think this, then I can not agree with you. Because again, it is a gift. A promise. If God says you HAVE eternal life. Yet in reality, you may still die, Then you do not have eternal life. You have what would be called conditional life. You continue to make it all about you. (you need...

First We are saved BECAUSE of redemption. If we are not redeemed we are not saved. so in essence they are interelated. ie, if we are redeemed we are saved, if we are not redeemed, we are still dead in our sins. Instead of worrying about what people thought about in the 3rd or 16th century...

Why would I care? I care about what the word of God says, Not Men. Tell me @BreadOfLife Why do you insist on following men not the Bible

No. You showed me what you THINK it means You have not resolved the issue that one is to be taken often, and is a physical meal. and promises nothing the other promises And the other is a spiritual food. Which endures to eternal life. Which gives the one who eats all Jesus promised Until you...

Agree it is not just a symbol But if the eucharist Gave it, Then the one who eats, as jesus said in john 6 will never die. and have eternal life

If it can be stopped. IT IS NOT ETERNAL If it can be stopped IT IS CONDITIONAL WHy can people not see this. ps. Yes it is a thing.. It is called a gift. A gift is a thing "the wage of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life in Jesu"

I have 2.. I try not to ignore. it is a last resort

so basically your in limbo. You have no idea if your saved or not. At best you can just guess. If your alright with that. I guess my best to you But the bible says we can KNOW. I chose to KNOW

And if you listen to him, I bet he believes the me thing

Sounds like you obeyed the gospel. So you were obedient to life.

so we can become worthy of eternal life? please explain how. and where it gives us these conditions in the word

so again, how do you know if you made it? Do you live your life in fear hoping you make it. or do you know

he does? He thinks obedience to Gods word in the gospel is not necessary? Marks did you say this?

God purchased us with a price.. To deny us as the word says is to deny himself

again let me know. I have a bunch more

I am not pitting one verse against another I have proved they are not in the same context so are not related Has nothing to do with pitting one against another, it is putting them both inn context. I guess that is too hard for you to understand

or you could try reading what they said 3 possibilities 1. Without begging or end 2. without beginning 3. without end John 3: 16 would only fit using the 3rd possibility as since we have a beginning, the first two possibilities do not pertain to us.

no appology necessary but thank you I have many more lexicons and they all say the same, which would you like to see. Are they all decieved?

No they did not. You must think you know everything You used the word AEON.. Thats NOT the word used in John 3: 16, "eternal life" o believe what you want, if your afraid to look it up. thats on you

Wrong If it could be lost. ITS NOT ETERNAL. ITS CONDITIONAL You can have your conditional life.. I will wish you well