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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    excuse me but predestination is a bibical term, it is found in the bible. to say it is horrid, or makes God like satan is being Now, If you hate a certain defenition of what some people think it means, that is one thing, but to say it is satanic. Well If it is satanic, I guess the bible is satanic
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Nope I never said this or suggested this Can you please for once try to listen to what I have said. It gets old You seem to have forgotten how the justice syste works When a defendant who is charged with a crime, sentenced and put to death, Who was paid that death? Stop trying so hard to...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    I think Jesus said it best Matthew 12:31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Jesus said , it is finished (tetellisti, literally paid in full) Does not make sense please rephrase lol.. The...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    If you can not chose to have faith, then it is not realy faith at all.
  5. Eternally Grateful

    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    Yes But it still is applicable to the Gentiles The same message was given to both.. Your not saved any different than any other person is saved, if you think so you are proclaiming there are more than one gospel. In siuch case. You need to be directed to Galatians chapter one. About anyone...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Yes it is,, If you look at number 2. They (we) also started with repenting Both also started with repenting and prayer. It is after this event that they went separate ways I labeled number three as a whole as legalism. Not each individual thing Please try to understand Thank you
  7. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I agree, I never seen any way literally say grace must be earned But many preach it, then deny it. Grace is not a power. It is a reason. The reason gives us power (ie, paul could consider severe pain and suffering a momentary light affliction based on the result of grace in his salvation...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    The term harden means to strengthen. God used all these things to slowly harden or strengthing Pharaohs heart (Notice, Pharaoh also hardened his heart a few times) so that when it came to the last sign (Passover) pharaohs will was so strengthened that he has no problem sending his army to their...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Grace is no legalism But people turn it to legalism, by making it something to be earned, Not a gift of God. which could never be earned. There are three basic gospels in all the earth 1. Licentiousness - also called easy believing. A person says some sinners prayer, and magically they are...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I would agree, Mary worship, Paganism, Idolatry, is quite a stupid discussion to have, and is never goin gto convince anyone, and could be seen as an attack. As for false gospel or works salvation. When this is not just a catholic/protestant debate, as many many churches and denominations are...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    More people have turned Gods grace to legalism than have ever turned his grace to licentiousness its funny how most of the epistles in the NT fight legalistic thinking, and just a few small parts speak of licentiousness. There is a reason.
  12. Eternally Grateful

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    No, Our discussion is not a free will issue. I am not a fatalists. I believe in free will Before I was saved, all I could do was sin.. I could not love in the way God demanded me to love, I could love in a human way, But God calls us to love much deeper than this The bible says we love BECAUSE...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    lol Romans was given to the gentile church of rome and is applicable to us yesterday today and tomorrow
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Yes, God rose Pharaoh (this particular person) and put him in power because he KNEW he would do what God needed him to do. An omniscient God is blessed in this way. He does not make mistakes He also did not force pharaoh to do what Pharaoh did not already want to do.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Again, I never said otherwise But it is not the way fatalists think it is.
  16. Eternally Grateful

    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    You thinking of the NT church I am using the definition of the word. Yes they are not the same in the way they function or looked. I agree
  17. Eternally Grateful

    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    Modern day church your correct. But a church, no again, Church just means a gathering, It ocmes from the greek word ekklesia There was a jewish ekklesia in the OT
  18. Eternally Grateful

    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    The church comes from the word ekklesia. It means a gathering, I consider it the body of Christ. The jews in the OT where called the church of God. And this church includes gentiles The NT church consists of all believers no matter if they are jew or gentile the tribulation church will...
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    PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

    Jewish believers will be resurrected with the church, they are part of the church. All people. jew or gentile who are saved in the tribulation will reform the church here on earth. Those who endure to the end, will ive, and enter the kingdom age with Jesus. and will go on for 1000 years