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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    No, you showed me what you interpret the word to say I disagree with your interpretation.
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Brother, if you knew my system you would not be saying things about me which are not true. you may have went to a church not like yours, but if you went to one who believes as I do you would share what I believe, And at least get close
  3. Eternally Grateful

    2 Thessalonians 2:7

    So we are not supposed to support people? We support every nation in need no matter who it is
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Yep You do not understand a thing I believe. Again, Look at the tax collector. What led him to that point of despair so that he called out to jesus, And believe you me, It was not a split second, one point he had no understanding of anything then the next he just fell and repented. It was a...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Same difference, in a split second. Basically like he snaps his fingers Sorry, I m not buying it. People are drawn, led by God, I know people who God drew for years. Taking them down, teaching them before they says yes..
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Sorry bro. Scripture does not say this. Look at how long suffering he was to the Israel. Year and years of putting up with their sin, before the ultimate punishment was enforced.
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    I have no idea how you got to this discussion we were talking about the gift of the cross to the world sorry bro,
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Yes, only the saved can suffer for him but I think I was talking about Jesus suffering on the cross? How did that transform into how a child of God needs to carry his cross
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Sorry, but I strongly disagree Jesus said the spirit convicts the world of sin righteousness and judgment, it is him helping us understand and teaching and leading, he does not just snap his fingers and magically we understand and believe,
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Sorry bro, you the one who attacked me by saying he earned his salvation, now your back stepping. Make up your mind In saying this you 1. think he earned his salvation 2. Have no understanding of what I believe, and are like your brother bearing false witness there is no three
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Yawn this is really getting old, same old argument, same old accusation I am not trying to get God of the hook for anything, I am just trying to push the God he is, a loving long suffering caring God those are his words not mine, I do not see that God in fatalistic teaching, if you do, well...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Amen, he could have said no, as most likely many did, and we would never know that story
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Defending Homosexuality

    They are possessed? I never said a christian supports them but a true christian will give them the bread of life like Jesus does, and not act all self righteous and judgmental
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Yep it is For all mankind If not for the gift of the cross. No one would ever have a thing to have faith n. We would all be headed to hell.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    ressurection to live, or physical ressurection?
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Yeah it is a fruit of the spirit BECAUSE THE SPIRIT HELPS US TO COME TO FAITH. Again, a nonsensical argument. Its the work of God that we believe in the one he sent. Not our work.. (john 6) Your fear is deafening.
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    A man getting on his knees and begging for Gods mercy because he has come to the end of himself unable to even look up to heaven, has earned his salvation.. Wow man, I have heard everything no.. If this is calvinism. You just pushed me further away. In this case. NO ONE COULD GET SAVED, Even...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    If this is about me, I have been proven wrong before. And I have changed my vies on things Today however. I have not been shown anything but strawman arguments which can go both ways.
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Again, Its not there He bible was not written in chapters, It was written as a letter. Men put letters in there. I read the context of the discussion. Ad as you saw it was not there. Why don’t you show me the actual verses you are talking about. Instead of acting like you act. Or is that to...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    I read the whole chapter. Better yet, I looked at what Jesus said in context. Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour. 28 Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified...