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whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.. did anyone force you to be saved ? was a gun held to your head that forced you to pray? that's free will the holy spirit draws you not forces

i know i was in carm forum full of them.. i was called all kinds of names.

that is Calvinist teaching at its best .. you have it part right God does draw us first. but we have the chose him its called free will the whosoever shall call upon. romans 10:10 with the heart we believe. with the mouth we confess theirs the choice

neither does yours say not to...so its a matter of interpretation

lol hold on there this is your doctrine you show me where it says we dont need to be baptized..certainly water baptism does not save us .but Jesus in the great commission said 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that...

take my words for what it says not what you think i repeat water baptism follows salvation. it doesnt matter jew greek gentile . we are baptized after we get saved. baptism is a affirmation of faith

i pretty much said that except for baptism of the spirit . was all i left out

it dont but water baptism follows after salvation i find no place in scripture that says other wise . the apostolic place emphasis on water baptism

But the water baptism itself did not remit the sins .. to many out there depends on water baptism salvation.. baptism Follows after were saved john 1:29 --justified by grace faith and the blood romans 5 or chapter 6 dont have time look

the only narrow view is YOURS lol asking stupid questions Btw my narrow views are backed by scripture .. maybe if you would use eye salve on your eyes you might NOTE **** MIGHT doubtful but maybe

you dont get it its not a church doctrine per say.. its bible ask your priest

maybe his priest failed to tell him

ok sigh ****** i will help you out this one time... Romans 10: 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the...

psst i never said it did.. its the whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD is saved .. i think your following doctrines of man must be the way he ask and then answers

i wasn't born a catholic nor a baptist or any other denom.. i was Born again because i was lost in sin. the only thing that matter what does the Bible say

exactly

water baptism is NOT for the remission of sins Grace does that along with justification along with the blood w/o the shedding of Blood there is no remission of sins

only one true Church

absolutely water baptism follows salvation the baptism of the spirit where we are placed into the BODY OF CHRIST is the key

then looks like your never going to know the truth