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i have done some study on mormons they base it on joseph smith it is another Gospel But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse! Galatians 1:8

mormons is a false doctrine based on works and degrees

bingo this knowing these principals the debate over eternal security as per arguments is endless. it will never be settled

agreed but it happens certain dressodes certain ways in service ya know the doers and the donters lol

we rest by faith in the finished works of the cross the price is paid it is finished .. for some odd reason we keep trying to add on .instead of by faith rest

allow him to do it

there should be no debate we have to grow

i like this i found it in searching i had forgot what #2 was.. found this Justification delivers from the penalty of sin Sanctification delivers from the power of sin Glorification delivers from the presence of sin

Holy/sanctified set apart for a purpose .the Bible say holiness w/o no man shall see the Lord.. 3 steps in our sanctification 1. positional when we are saved /born again/ a new creation in christ. set apart placed into the body 2.progressive we are to grow in grace and...

you have valid points i have in times past allowed my flesh to respond.. but not in this particular thread.. just food for thought any teaching saying it is ok to do as you please after salvation and still be saved. is very false . this is why i have seen it on both sides of the fence /...

at what exact point ..do you have plans in the near future?

see if truly saved we will want to continue . this subject is qnat straining

that was hard lol aee that is part of eternal security

it was your reference of baptist lol so i thought i would inquire of which baptist

do tell? obvious you been to the wrong baptist btw curious. which baptist church are you talking about there are only about humteen hunder different baptist ..in fact i know of a baptist church where pentecostals attend... there is no tongue used in the service. other than what those...

this is why there can never be a serious discussion . i do know for a fact there are those who if you never spoke in tongues your not saved..that is false teaching.. then the group who feel your not spirit filled by speaking in tongues... that is wrong.. i know of a baptist minister who...

yes i said the same thing i find no merit in the o.p .it is just like eternal security..there is no way it can be discussed in a civil manner

well thank you for your rude remark --if you cant respect the other person belief you have a problem.

goodness i simply made a comment please read again AT NO time did i reference you nor did i say you was making fun . once again going on experience

see this subject can create a fire just like eternal security / O S A S . some things with tongues i am somewhat cautious on. the part of it being evil comes from the flesh. some people are not comfortable around tongues.. i have been in services where many was using tongues /to...