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No, no answer has been given to the answer already furnished to your "answer"--ie, 1 John 5 says "the eternal life is in His Son", and this shows that the branch that does not abide in Him will not have the life that is only "in His Son". We differ. I'm finding it difficult to believe that...

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Many things could be said--like how a dead branch never issues from a tree, but only a living branch, and, later, it may stop receiving the substance that is only found in the tree, so it may be removed--but it is important to recognize, here, that the warning to "abide", taught by Jesus in Jn...

Yeah, He also says branches that don't abide get cut off, so I was having difficulty. Yeah, and 1 Jn 5 says "this [eternal] life is in His Son", and, if you take into consideration that abiding in Him (where the life is) isn't automatic, nor assumed (otherwise, John wouldn't have commanded...

If only that verse was there, I might agree, but He also says some branches don't abide, so they're.cut off and are thrown in the fire, so I was having difficulty.

Anyway, I don't want to get off topic. If you want to discuss OSAS / NOSAS, please join another thread--maybe one of mine.

I believe all those verses, and do not come to your conclusions lol Thanks anyway!

Nope, Ezekiel 18:24 says God can forget righteousness, so, faith being counted as righteousness, and their having believed having been forgotten, it becomes the case that they never believed. God blots out sins, forgetting it, but He also blots out righteousness, forgetting it. Branches are...

I can't accept that : 1. John warns the "little children" "remain in Him", warning them with the same warning of the branches that get cut off if they don't (Jn 15 ; 1 Jn 2:28). 2. Your "take" makes the idea of being blotted out of the Book of Life meaningless. Also, many other passages, which I...

Of course : my purpose in discussing, sometimes, is to check my blind spots. I subject my views to scrutiny to help improve. That said, I started out by saying I did not know how to reconcile the two, so I was looking for help / opinions. No, your desire is not to help me but to help yourself.

Your "purpose" is to make yourself the center of the thread--that's not happening.

The reply addressed user @bdavidc, so idk why you would make yourself the center of the matter. Empty allegations. You're still trying to take control of the thread / change the topic--and I'm still not going to let that happen. You're off topic.

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I'm sorry, my point was that some who have His Word do not abide in Him (ie, by not abiding in His Word : "if that which you heard from the beginning abides in you you will abide in Him"), thus they are cut off and thrown in the fire : Christ will lose none who keep His Word, not "no one can...

The verse I cited in the OP, which verse you were to be responding to, and which you quoted, saying, "Paul went out from among John", was 1 John 2:18,19--you are free to admit you erred, though I doubt you will. Unless you repent and admit your error, or somehow prove that you were not applying...

Every person thinks their own views, including their eschatological views, are "more Bible focused" than the next person's--the focus of this thread will not waver. It really seems you are eager to divulge your understanding on the issue of eschatology. Maybe you can start a post about it?

It's not the topic.

Branches / disciples / "little children" who don't abide are cut off and are thrown in the fire ; accordingly, John warns the children "abide in Him" in order that they might not draw back in shame at His return. Some statements John makes ("does not go on sinning") are specifically against...

We differ on eschatology, but I don't want to get in to that topic, because it isn't the focus here.