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    Please describe yourself, regarding eschatology

    For things not on the chart: The rapture will occur during the last plague before the millennium. Those who are alive and belong to Jesus at the end of the millennium will be changed or made immortal while still on earth. Heaven and earth will be dissolved, and a new heaven and a new earth will...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I agree that Israel is the woman. I also show you your error from scripture. Gen 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Just because Satan corrupted the signs...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I don't know, I believe Adam was created with a physical body. If Adam had a permanent body, his body would never have died as a result of his sin. This is the difference between mankind and angels. Angels have permanent bodies, so when they sinned, they couldn't die and be resurrected into a...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I agree that this is where this symbol for the nation of Israel is found. Rev 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Not a pre-trib rapture theory, just an additional story. We both see a story that ends with Jesus' future coming with the 7th trumpet. We both see another story that ends with Jesus' future coming with the 7th vial. We both see another story that ends with Jesus' future coming at the latter...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I believe the silence occurs in Rev 11:12 above. While the 2 witnesses rise into heaven, about 30 minutes, no songs are being sung in heaven until the third song below is sung at the arrival of the 2 witnesses/144,000 into heaven. The first song is Rev 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    We are in agreement. I don't see any connection between Rev 7:1-3 and what you wrote below. I agree that Matt 24:31 is another version of the passages you sited. The 2 witnesses and the 144,000 are both in heaven before Matt 24:31. Rev 11:12 "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Why don't you believe that the 'spiritual body' that abides in the lake of fire is eternal? I don't believe God the Father has a physical body. 1 Tim 6:16 " Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    1 Cor 15:53 " For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." What do you believe is the difference between corruptible and mortal? What do you believe is the difference between incorruption and immortality? In John 5:28-29, the resurrection of life...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Rev 12:3-4 Please see post 260 for my explanation of these verses and all of Rev 12. 6 kings of the past: 1 Babylon, 2 Media-Persia, 3 Greece, 4 Ptolemy, 5 Seleucia, 6 Rome 7th king is for the future 7 new Rome When the crowns are upon the heads, the heads have dominion, the horns do not have...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    The ascension of the 2 witnesses ends the great tribulation. Rev 11:12 "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them." This is a preview of God's call (trumpet voice) for everyone. What...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Rev 4:5 "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God." Rev 8:5 "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Do you agree that being sealed with God's seal is acceptance of the Holy Spirit? I agree that the 5th trumpet will take place before the great tribulation. I agree to this, but think there is more to it. Compare Dan 7:2-3 with Rev 7:1-3. When the 4 winds blow, a world empire emerges. Dan 7:2-3...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Although Jesus never sinned, he did take on all of our sins and was therefore forsaken by God while he was on the cross. Comparing my chart to your theory is not compelling. For me to change my opinion, I will need you to pick any overlapping parts of my chart and show me from the Bible that...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I had to delete most of your post to explain Rev 12. Rev 12 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (This was an cosmological event or sign for the nation of Israel.) 2 And she being...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Heb 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." From my perspective, our souls will not fully...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Why do you think that it is not also about the flesh? Isn't your statement at odds with Rev 20:6? Rev 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I agree with your timing. The 7th Trumpet begins the Vials of God's wrath. This is the 3rd woe. This is when God pours out his wrath on those who have been killing his people. Compare Rev 11:19 with Rev 16:17-21 They are the same event! Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Rev 13:1-5 1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." (Authority over this beast is not given to a nation, but is divided between 10 nations. That is...