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  1. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    Genocide in any form is the opposite of mercy.
  2. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    Yes, it did. That's why I searched the Bible for the Bible's explanation and found the relevant explanation in Deuteronomy 7:1-4, which I cited in my original posting. And once I read the Bible's explanation I realized that the Bible's reason isn't a good reason-- it's an evil reason.
  3. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    The passages you cited, from Ephesians 2 and Romans 2 and 6, were written by Paul. The passages I cited, from Matthew 6 and Matthew 25, were spoken by Jesus. Why do you prefer Paul to Jesus? You: Hogwash. If you compare the two different genealogies given for Jesus in Matthew 1 and Luke 3...
  4. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    So you agree that forgiveness comes first, and from it flows God’s salvation. Therefore you agree with Jesus, not with Paul. Here’s another quote from the mouth of Jesus: “When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the...
  5. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    According to this passage the only way to earn the forgiveness of God is by forgiving the sins of other people. Forgiveness of others = works. The above passage is from the mouth of Jesus. So Jesus believed the exact opposite of what you believe.
  6. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    I used the term “Holy Spirit” in the context of comparing the authenticity of the Bible to that of the Koran. One argument for believing that the Bible is the word of God is that its books were ostensibly inspired by the Holy Spirit. But Muslims believe the same about the Koran. So by that...
  7. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Okay, how's this: There's no such thing as Satan. There's no such thing as angels. There's no such thing as the resurrection of the dead. There's no such thing as paradise. There's no such thing as prophecy.
  8. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Wouldn’t Satan, seeking to sow discord and doubt, introduce false prophets into the world who profess manifestly evil teachings and misreadings of scripture? People who, for example, insist that billions of humans who have lived without ever enjoying knowledge of Jesus must be damned to hell and...
  9. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    I was responding to your claim that biblical texts existed in 2700 BCE. I didn't interpret that as a spiritual statement-- I interpreted it as a claim of historical fact. So I responded with evidence from the historical record to show that it is just pure baloney. But to turn to spiritual...
  10. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Yes yes yes, I'm quite aware of what Paul said. When Roman Catholic priests traveled to the Western Hemisphere with the early European explorers several of them wrote about their experiences. They never found any evidence at all of an awareness of either Jesus or Yahweh among the indigenous...
  11. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Concerning the story of the Hebrews in Egypt: Concerning the story of the Exodus: So the idea that the book of Genesis existed in some form in or around 2700 BCE is pure hogwash. There’s plenty more where that came from. But you can prove to yourself just how worthless the Bible is as a...
  12. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    The written Hebrew language did not exist in 2700 BCE: Given this background, Christopher Rollston, the renowned biblical scholar and Semiticist, argued that "the Proto-Sinaitic Inscriptions from Serabit el-Khadim and Wadi el-Hol" were not in the Hebrew language. Rollston pointed to their date...
  13. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    How about every person who lived and died before the time of Jesus? Or how about every person who lived and died in the Western Hemisphere before the arrival of the Europeans in the 15th century? None of them could have heard about Jesus.
  14. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Nope-- certainly not. Jim B: The Muslim contention is that the entire Koran was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Mohammed, it is said, simply recited the words that were given to him by the Holy Spirit. So Muslims believe that the Koran is truly the word of God. Christians, likewise, believe that...
  15. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    What sin specifically? The only "sin" mentioned is that they were not followers of Yahweh. Do you think that anyone who refuses to worship Yahweh should be slaughtered? Maybe you missed an earlier discussion. I said in the following posting that there have been billions and billions of people...
  16. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    Anyone who believes that it is perfectly reasonable to slaughter people purely for their beliefs is a bigot. Renounce your bigotry and apologize.
  17. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    I don't think the question is absurd. In fact I think it's a perfectly natural question to ask. You said that you interpret the Bible on the basis of the Holy Spirit. There are literally billions of Muslims who would say that is exactly how they interpret the Koran. So I concluded, naturally I...
  18. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    I believe in democracy and the rule of law. Democracy is nowhere mentioned in the Bible. Or the Koran. Or the Book of Mormon. I therefore view all of those writings (and many others as well) as being incomplete, at best. I believe people should be judged on the basis of their actions and deeds...
  19. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    So you accept God's plan to commit genocide, right?