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You're babbling now. Science understands all of that. Your ignorance of science is not an argument for the 'woo' of the supernatural. It's just another tired expression of the Divine Fallacy - "If'n I don't understand the science - then my god musta done it."

Sure there is. Ecclesiastes 11: 5-6 - "As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things." And yet science does know exactly how a body is formed in the womb.

I'm comparing the data that show the US will continue losing Christians - projected by Pew Research to drop from 2010's 78.3% to 66.4% by 2050, while almost the entire African continent is showing significant gains over that same period. I agree. But is that what's happening? Do you think all...

Are you the pot or the kettle here? Smugness and rightness in their own eyes describes almost every Christian I've ever engaged. :gd

Well, if heaven is full of people like you and so many other Christians, give me the express train to hell. :thumbsup:

Perhaps it’s like calling oneself Christian while ignoring the Beatitudes. :contemplate:

This thread could serve to illustrate - when you can’t get 10 disparate Christians into a room that can even agree on something as fundamentally critical as how salvation is achieved - why there are more and more skeptics every day. Sorry to interrupt. Please continue telling other Christians...

Yeah, when posts are segmented this way, I’m afraid I’m too stupid to figure out how to respond in kind on my phone. I’ll have to wait until I’m home on my PC.

This data is evidence of a falling away in the US, but does not address the dramatic increase in Christianity in 3rd world nations. And if Christians are leaving one Christian group just to join another, I don’t think that qualifies as a ‘falling away’. Further, do you think Jesus supports...

So, you continue to lie about me demanding proof of your god. I guess lying is a 'moral' for you. But cool story about the beach and stuff. I love the beach. :gd

Yes, I'm quite aware that for many Christians - false science = any science that explodes your religious claims. :gd

“Do good for good is good to do. Spurn bribe of heaven and threat of hell.” - The Kasidah of Haji Abdu Al-Yezdi

Others may call it grasping for straws in the face of dread. Your feelings may be an early sign of depression. If you find yourself eating less and not sleeping well - these things cause changes in brain chemistry that can ultimately give rise to suicidal ideation. Modern science has...

There is no confusion about science in any post I have made. Or about proof. You decided to pretend I was someone that demanded proof of your god when that is not the case - which is at least disingenuous, if not down right dishonest. And I note the absence of any apology for your...

So, that's a 'no' to you being able to comprehend natural explanations. And that's a 'no' to you having any rational explanation for why your god ignores trillions of prayers. :gd

(sigh) Your religion is ever morphing as well. Most bibles no longer claim that a verse in the OT about Nazarites means Jesus was from Nazareth. They no longer claim that the long ending of Mark is original - which means it is a spurious interpolation (another definition of a LIE). Many now...

Except - you haven't shown any confusion about any of those things. Honest discourse calls for you to at least show evidence of confusion - assuming honesty is a Christian moral.... All you managed to do was pretend I was someone who demanded proof of your god - which is decidedly not true. An...

lol. That isn’t even close to what happened. I asked you if you believed rocks and trees groaned and yearned and whether you took that as literal or just another verse that many Christians now consider to be metaphor. You refused to answer the first - and instead went into some happy dance...

So, rocks and trees and rivers are ‘groaning with birth pangs’? Lions are in bondage of sin? You consider that to be literal? Sounds more like you applying eisegesis to support a claim you trapped yourself into. The story has Daniel himself claiming that this god simply sent an angel to shut...

Or... your god simply stopped the lions. Or... this is just another invented story designed to keep Christians in line. So many possibilities....