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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    You said this...."Remember too what I said about salvation. It is not always the act of being born-again" If salvation is "not always the act of being born again" then according to you one can be "born again" and still not be saved. Or, one can be "saved" but not be "born again". This is what...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    So now one can be "saved" without being "born again"? That's made up because that is not what the Bible teaches. Jn 3:3-5 In John 15:3 Jesus told his apostles.....you are clean through the word I have spoken to you. How was that? Because they had been obedient to his message. It is exactly...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Of course it does! What you are now saying is words within a context do not matter. You can now place whatever meaning you want to whatever passage you choose! You call that Bible study? That's purely corrupt. That should disqualify you as having any Bible knowledge since you just said...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Hahaha. This is fantastic and typical of those who teach false doctrine. You have a set of rules that I don’t get to play by. Nowhere do we find the words “faith alone” (except once in the negative) but you get to “assume” that the word “alone” is there. But with baptism you are saying you...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Again, there is NO MENTION OF A COMING SAVIOR in Gen 15:1-6. This IS NOT the topic of discussion. Abraham wanted kids and God promised he would have many offspring. He was speaking of the coming nation of Israel. All of whom were descendants of Abraham and Sarah. So, All Abraham believed was...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Here is your fabulous post 191... The born again process includes water. Even reputable commentaries on John 3:5 concede that “water” is water baptism. The context of chapters 2 and 3 is about water baptism. John and Jesus were commanding it and the Pharisees wouldn’t do it. This is why...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    I will deal some more later with 191. But first. How does John 13 illustrate how being washed doesn’t pertain to baptism? Peter and the boys had already been baptized in water. Therefore were “washed” and “clean”. Why? Because Jesus taught baptism for the remission of sins. Nowhere in that...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    You said this... “Therefore, God imputed righteousness to Abraham when his faith was directed toward the coming Saviour. Therefore, we can know that when we place faith in Jesus Christ, as God has told us to do, that at that time we too have the righteousness of Christ imputed to us.” So at...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Through your teaching I can know that your prayer is not going to help me.
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    See, this is a perfect example. You don’t get it just like everybody else on here. John is writing to Christians. John is writing to people who have already obeyed the gospel, been baptized, and had their sins washed away. This is NOT telling an alien sinner how to become a child of God. He is...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Why do you make so many statements without using scripture for support? You just throw it out there as if it is truth. where did I ever say they were the same thing. I actually broke down how they are different. They just happen at the same time. Here’s what the Bible says... 1 Corinthians...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Again...the word “seed” in vs 5 was talking about children. He didn’t promise anything to Abraham in these verses other than to give him children which would expand into a great nation. That’s all! There is no “savior” there. But....when you look years later in chapter 22 we find this...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    You are destroying the Bible by what you are doing here. If this is your way of exegesis it is criminal. You cannot take the passages you like to the exclusion of others. Not a one of the above passages says justified by “faith alone” and you know that! But you don’t care! That’s what makes...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    but you did. Not everyone. I know of one other poster that “gets it”. But thats all I have seen on this entire board. And not all say we must repent, but we do. They don’t all say we must believe, but we do. So, what’s your point? That’s right! But at what point does the blood wash away...
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    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    The book of acts ends this way... Acts 28:30-31 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him. Paul was...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    The funny thing is you are laughing at God and not me because all I did is quote what God said. But that, in actuality, is all any of you on this board do. You laugh at God at every turn. God says.... He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. You say no and laugh Repentance and...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Oh I do huh. Well let’s see if I can “google” another a list! You would agree that justification or being justified is salvation? Correct? Justified is said to mean...”just if I had not sinned”. Well, what about sanctification or being “sanctified”. Does this not happen at the exact same time...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    Genesis 15:4-6 And, behold, the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. Where’s the savior? He’s looking for children! Not a savior. Abram has no kids of his own and God tells him....you...
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    Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

    You haven’t shown anything! All you have done is say...you are wrong, you are wrong. Why are you not able to use the Bible and show me all the instances where people are declared saved, born again, etc before doing anything? It’s because it doesn’t exist. Jesus himself said that water was a...
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    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    The doibt The doubt is mine. I don’t believe your doctrine. You don’t want to teach it to people? Where did the gospel ever change. There must be some point where the gospel went from baptism to no baptism.