Being born-again is the first part of your salvation. Yes you are now a new creature in Christ. Yes, you now begin your walk in newness of life. You are trying to use (Rom. 6:3-4) to mean water baptism. It does not. It is Spirit baptism. As I already showed you.
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The born again process includes water. Even reputable commentaries on John 3:5 concede that “water” is water baptism. The context of chapters 2 and 3 is about water baptism. John and Jesus were commanding it and the Pharisees wouldn’t do it. This is why Nicodemus came to Jesus by night.
Baptism is said to....
Remit sins......Acts 2:38
Save us.......Mk 16:16, 1 pet 3:21
Blott our sins.....acts 3:19
Wash away sins.....acts 22:16
Is how one calls on the name of the lord.....acts 22:16
How one gets into Christ.....rom 6, Gal 3, 1 Cor 1
How one is sanctified....Eph 5:26
Those who reject it are rejecting the counsel of god. Lk 7
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I have actually already dealt with Rom 6. Even my fifth grade son knows that a burial, a planting, a resurrection all resemble water baptism. Not Spirit baptism. To walk in newness of life is to be born again. And as I showed above, that process includes water. Water baptism. And I have shown above how baptism washes away, remits, blots out sin, and saves. This makes the convert a new creature. Nowhere is “faith alone” ever shown to do these things. If it did you would have a list of your own, but you don’t, and that’s because the Bible specifically says “faith alone” DOES NOT SAVE.
Deal with that!
(John 3:16-18) (John 6:29) (Gal. 3:26-27) These show that salvation is by faith alone and that one is in Christ the moment he believes. As do the many more Scriptures that teach one is born-again by faith alone.
There is no “faith alone” in John 3 :16. This comes right after John 3:5 which has salvation being based on water. Nice contradiction. Those who truly “believe” will obey. It is through their obedience they will then be baptized in order to remove their sins. John 3:36. To believe is to obey. There is no getting around that.
John 6:29? Faith is a “work of God”. Just like baptism....Col 2:11-13. When one is baptized it is God who works on the individual to circumcise them or cut away the sins of the flesh.
In baptism.... Man does nothing! God does everything!
Gal 3. Since I’ve shown that Rom 6 is water baptism then Gal 3 is as well since he is talking about the same thing....getting into Christ or into the body. 1 Cor 12:13
No. (Rom. 6:3-4) is Spirit baptism. This act of baptizing us by the Spirit into Christ's death, burial, and resurrection was always what water baptism pointed to. Water baptism did not do it. (Gal. 3:26-27) speaks to the same Spirit baptism. As does (1 Cor. 12:13). You really must learn to distinguish between water and Spirit baptism.
Everyone who was “baptized with the Spirit”. (The Spirit never baptized anybody, it was Christ doing the baptizing with the Spirit) received the miraculous! Nobody receives that today. This should be enough proof to show that you are wrong. Without the miraculous; how do you know you have received the Spirit of God? You don’t!!! You just make claims with no proof.
Distinguish?
Then show me throughout the NT everywhere we see water baptism?
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How do you know that it is water baptism?
We know Christ commanded water baptism. When did he tell them to stop using water? Man cannot baptize with the Spirit. So, if man is involved it has to be water.
Concerning (Titus 3:5), just because the word 'washing' is used does not mean it is water baptism.
Doesn’t mean it is Spirit either. is the remission of sins a “washing of regeneration”? If not why not?
Is washing away of sins a “washing of regeneration”? If not why not?
Is newness of life (associated with baptism) a “washing of regeneration? If not why not?
Also, the washing in Titus 3:5 is separate from the HG. It is a “washing of regeneration” AND a renewing of the HG! These are not the same.
Our being saved is spoken as being a 'washing of regeneration'. A cleansing by God, not by our righteousness. No baptism water here.
wait a minute! This is in perfect harmony with Col 2:11-13 which tells us that it is God that does the work in baptism by cutting away the sins of the flesh with the circumcision made without hands.
(Eph. 5:26) speaks to the continual need and action of Christ in cleansing His Church. It speaks to our continual need to be cleansed, but not to our original cleansing given in (Titus 3:5). This is perfectly displayed in (John 13:6-10) No baptismal water here.
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Paul specifically told those in Ephesus.....they had been sanctified “through the washing of water”. Tell me this!....Were the Ephesians baptized in water? Yes or no? Since we all know they were (twice) doesn’t Paul’s statement make perfect since? They were never “baptized” with Spirit! We have evidence of that! They received the Spirit....not from Christ but through the laying on of Paul’s hands. This completely destroys your position. Because IF they had been “baptized by the Spirit” then Paul would not have had to lay hands on them. They were sanctified through “the washing of water” and then they received the Spirit through Paul. This is in perfect harmony with his letter. Also....he told the Ephesians....there is “one baptism”. We now know he meant water baptism because I just factually showed everyone that they were NEVER baptized by the Spirit because we have proof that they received the Spirit from Paul and not Christ. Paul baptized them IN WATER!