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    Atheist objections to evidence for God's existence

    Yeah, I could have written it more clearly, but with wiggle room I've mean the time between the events happening and the writting down. Homer speaks of events that happenned 400 years earlier+his own unclear birthdate. So around 400-500years passed before the events were writen down. As for the...
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    Free Will and Hell

    Everyone posting claimed to tell the thruth of the bible, so don't I know what you mean. If you don't mind, please elaborate. ~SelfInducedHeachache
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    Free Will and Hell

    As I don't follow any strict dogma, I can't say correct as in true. If you meant that if it was already already answered in a serious comment, then yes. Actually multiple comments. I even made this chart showing positions; Obvioulsy it's simplified, but it captures every position I heard. As...
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    Atheist objections to evidence for God's existence

    Oz, The same could be said about your pro-Christian and anti-pagan presuppositions. Your arguments always back your god. Which is totally ok, It's just that my actions towards other gods are as legal is yours. I know mine just seem more of a stretch, but that's, because most of pagan knowledge...
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    Atheist objections to evidence for God's existence

    I can't claim to know all religions, as I haven't had the time to study all the books, but I'll try to compare what I know. It must be pointed out that about 66 books were removed from the Christian canon, because of contradiction in the texts and believe. Other religions especially the older...
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    Atheist objections to evidence for God's existence

    Hi, I've scanned most of this thread so far and found one point which, I think, hasn't been discussed yet. What does make your claims of the supernatural have other religions, cults or just simply believes don't? Most Christians in this thread assert their believe as correct and formulate their...
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    Free Will and Hell

    I'm not saying it's the judges fault. I'm mostly questioning the legitimacy of the christian mainstream idea of hell. Fire and Birmstone, eternal torment and absolutely nothing one can do against it when they arrive in hell. Yes humans are faulty, but if they had to coexist for an eternity...
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    Free Will and Hell

    So you believe the biblical free choice is free choice within the parameters of God, wich are believe or devastation?(I'm assuming you subcribe to the fire and brimstone interpretation of hell, because you haven't stated anything against it yet) Like you said no reasonable person would chose...
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    Free Will and Hell

    Indeed nobody knows and nobody should preach they are absolute, so everybody can communicate their experiences and everything can be treated with the same sincerity and openness. I find the concept of hell being caused by humans interesting and very possible inside the bible. So hell is a...
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    Free Will and Hell

    Assuming the bible is true, as I've stated at the top, here I'll argue within bible; Wouldn't the rational clockwerklike people still be cast into hell, because they won't follow God out of devotion but out of tactic, a simple calculation so to speak? They're incapable of making such a choice by...
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    Free Will and Hell

    Thanks for this interesting welcome. Like you've said, this really boils down to the subject of hell. I've already read into your thread and I must say, althought I've never ever thought of karma and christianity matching, it just works. It is even one of the more reasonable interpretations of...
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    Free Will and Hell

    First of all in this threat I argue as if the bible was true, althought I have my problem with it. I'm very confused by myself and the bible. The crux of my headache is; If God wanted humans to have free will and adore God out of own volution, why should humans fear hell? Now I know this...