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  1. Zao is life

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Well, thanks for taking all that time. Just to confirm that yes, we did speak about this before so I was aware that you regard Luke 21:20-24 as parallel to Matthew 24:15-22, and the words "the holy place" as Jesus referring to the Jerusalem temple because it was still regarded as the Holy Place...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    It doesn't have multiple definitions. In every other N.T verses it's referring to the loosening up of something that was either bound, tied up, or bound together as a unit. That's why in some verses it doubles up as something that was bound together being broken down. It does not refer to the...
  3. Zao is life

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I don't believe He spoke specifically of the temple again at all. If you compare all three synoptic gospels He opens His reply by talking about two things: 1.Birth-pain signs near the end of the age; and 2. Persecution & tribulation which Luke records Jesus saying His disciples would experience...
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    Can a tare become saved?

    I agree with the above because it makes sense, and also because of the difference between what happens when the elect are gathered as opposed to when all nations are gathered: All nations: Matthew 25 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    By the same token how do you make sense of Luke 21:24 being related to 70 AD when you do not believe that Luke 21:25 relates to 70 AD? 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    the first heaven and the first earth were passed away [parerchomai ]; and there was no more sea. Quote as many verses in the New Testament as you can find where the word parerchomai refers to something that no longer exists. (Please do interpret scripture with scripture instead of practicing...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    OK I won't. LOL. If you don't have an answer and you believe he won't have an answer, then you advise him not to respond. Don't worry I'm sure he won't respond. I won't respond to his non-response. But maybe you should respond to his non-response the way you did here :Laughingoutloud:
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    I quoted scriptures using the word, so unless you quote scriptures using the word (especially when using the word in reference to something being destroyed) I'm not sure why you posted. Galatians 4:3: Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements [stoicheion]...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    "Melted" things (Luo): 2 Peter 3:10b ".. shall luo (loose) with kausoo (fire, fervent heat), the ge (earth) also and the ergon that are therein shall be katakaio (wholly consumed). Luo: To loose. Used in: Luo: Matthew 5:19 (loose one of the commandments); 16:19 & 18:18 (loosed on earth...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    The prophets used illustrations to represent the realities they were talking about all the time. Jesus used illustrations all the time. The apostles used a lot of illustrations and the Revelation is full of pictures used as illustrations representing the realities that are being spoken about...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    Agreed. He by whom all (created) things were created and in whom all (created) things consist declares He will make all (created) things new. There is no "create" implied in the Greek word used for "make" in Revelation 21:5. Besides this, the Greek words used in 2 Peter 3:10 do not necessarily...
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    You're always showing up your own ignorance when you claim to be "exposing someone else's false doctrine" - like you are doing above again. Hosea 1:10 does not apply to the house of Judah (the Southern kingdom, a.k.a "the Jews"). It applies to the part of Israel who God declared "Not My People"...
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    The Jerusalem which is above is the heavenly city of promise which God has prepared for His saints

    IMO Paul's subject in Hebrews 12:18-25 is not mountains but covenants, because what he's doing in that passage is comparing the old covenant with the new covenant and using the comparison between the mountain where the old covenant was given with the "mountain" where the new covenant can be...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    OK I see that you are determined to insist that the Holy Spirit has helped only me to see this. Not so. It's written in scripture so the apostles and the earliest Christians would ALL have understood it, and the more you do so, the more I will continue to reply to your false insinuiation -...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    I have to come back to this, because of what you kept saying about "this has only been revealed to me". Because it's a false statement. It's not "something that was revealed to me" or "only to me". It's in the Bible. The things that that Jesus said and the apostles recorded Him saying, and the...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Yes. Me neither. It's a rabbit-hole. That's my view too except that we already have eternal life (zoe) because of Christ IN us but we will only live | be alive (zao) forever, i.e immortal from the time you say above. But this is important to me, because "life" (zoe) the noun attached to...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Not a second chance to repent. The only chance to repent is before the return of Christ. Not another chance to repent but immortals who had it all being deceived one last time by Satan, and (believe it or not) apostatizing - like our ancestor Adam did in the Garden of Eden.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    OK. Just bear in mind please that my view is based on what the Bible teaches us about the (one and only) source of all life. We are not the source of it so we cannot own our own life or immortality. It's given to us in Christ.
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    LOL. I didn't mind you calling David pt my buddy. But he has given me the impression once or twice that he might mind (maybe not). I don't mind if he minds - but since it's not true that we adhere to the same beliefs in every respect, it's better not to. I guess.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    I will also try to count to 10 before I react like that. My reaction was an over-reaction again, and I also need to confess and repent. I haven't done so yet - but I will. God knows I'm fully aware of my sins and shortcomings all the time, and confess daily, so it's not as though I'm not aware...