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  1. keithr

    Did Jesus die the Second Death?

    It's because we all die (first death) as a penalty for our sins that Jesus sacrificed his life for us - to pay for us the penalty for those sins. We are therefore redeemed (our right/privilege to life bought back) and so we will be resurrected to life again. During the Millennial reign of...
  2. keithr

    Did Jesus die the Second Death?

    No Jesus did not die "the second death". We all die, then, because of Jesus' redeeming sacrifice, we will all be resurrected and afterwards be judged whether or not we are worthy of eternal life (Hebrews 9:27, as you quoted). Those that are judged unworthy will not have eternal life, they will...
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    If Jesus didn’t know the hour doesn’t that mean that he isn’t god?

    Yes it does. You cannot be almighty God if there is someone greater than you. But you are not your father. Likewise Jesus was/is not his father - his father is almighty God. Jesus prayed to God, saying, John 17 (WEB): (1) Jesus said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said...
  4. keithr

    If Jesus didn’t know the hour doesn’t that mean that he isn’t god?

    It's quite simple - your assumption is wrong, Jesus was/is not God! The evidence for this in the Bible is in plain sight: 1 Timothy 2:5 (WEB): (5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Corinthians 8:6 (WEB): (6) yet to us there is one God, the...
  5. keithr

    Did all the different races and ethnicities come from Adam and Eve?

    Why do you think it was 15,000 years ago? According to Bible chronolgy (such as Genesis 5, which gives the genealogy of Adam to Noah) Adam was created about 6,000 years ago (4004 BC).
  6. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    That doesn't surprise me! Such sweeping statements and assumptions! I do not worship a tiny, ineffectual God, nor do I live in fear of demons. His short article is full of errors right from the start! He says: The inhabitants of Sheol are not called “souls” or “spirits” in the Old Testament...
  7. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    I agree. We can't keep track of time when we are unconscious or asleep. If the "person" ceases to exist, because he/she has disintegrated back to dust, then it is obvious that a re-created human is not the same person (unless there is a non-physical part which survives and is placed in the...
  8. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    This is a Bible study forum, so the conversation should be Bible based. There's no point continuing the conversation if you're not basing your beliefs on what God's word to us says. Having an encounter with spirit beings, be it angels, Jesus, God or demons, is a very convincing experience, so...
  9. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    You should believe the Bible. God forbade consulting of mediums for a reason. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (WEB): (10) There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a...
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    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    A Targum is not the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible). The Targum is an Aramaic paraphrase/explanation/interpretation of the Hebrew text of the Jewish Scriptures provided by the rabbis in the course of teaching. These paraphrases or explanations were not meant to carry equal authority with the Word of God...
  11. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    I am merely trying to understand what the Scriptures say about our death and resurrection. I'm not saying anything that conflicts with the Scripture, as far as I am aware. You are assuming that nothing remains of us after we have died and that God relies on His memory to recreate us in the...
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    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    That will be demons trying to deceive people into believeing that dead people are not dead but are still conscious and can communicate with us (through mediums for example). The Scriptures say that the dead are sleeping, i.e. are unconscious and cannot communicate with anybody else. Psalms...
  13. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    Agreed - the person resurrected has to be the same person, otherwise there is no reason for us to take any notice of God's Word! But for the same person that has died to awaken out of the sleep of death, there has to be something that can wake up. The human body disappears and returns to dust...
  14. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    No, I'm not saying God can't recreate something that He has already made. He created many animals and plants, not just one of each (it was only man, and woman, that God created just one of). I believe that if God wanted to He could destroy the whole universe and create a new one (or as many...
  15. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    The difficulty I have with the idea that we are purely physical, and we completely return to dust when we die, with God recreating us at a later date from His memory, is that the newly created person would not be us - it would be a clone (God could even create multiple clones of us - which one...
  16. keithr

    Does God have wings?

    Again you write, "That is your carnal mind making that assumption", yet I never made that assumption! Likewise you wrote, "He never said He was a chicken, ... That's your carnal mind trying to understand God.", yet I never claimed that Jesus said he was a chicken - I had written "he did not...
  17. keithr

    Does God have wings?

    Err, I said that Jesus did NOT mean that he was a chicken, so why do you imply that I claimed that Jesus said he was a chicken? That's the exact opposite of what I wrote! Jesus is now just like God in nature - Hebrews 1:3 (ISV): (3) He {Jesus} is the reflection of God's glory and the exact...
  18. keithr

    Does God have wings?

    Some people don't seem to understand that God's Word isn't all literal, and that figures of speech are used extensively. When Jesus said, Matthew 23:37 (WEB): (37) “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I would have gathered your...
  19. keithr

    Does God have wings?

    I have read them and decided! As I pointed out, those verses should not be interpreted as a literal description of God. For example, Psalms 61:4 (WEB): (4) I will dwell in your tent forever. I will take refuge in the shelter of your wings. Selah. David is using figurative language - he is...
  20. keithr

    Does God have wings?

    Why would God have wings? Wings are physical members of a physical body that enable that body to fly through air (gas) so that it does not succumb to a force of gravity. God does not live in the physical world, so he would not need physical wings. The Bible references to God's wings, arms...