7th trump!

[Christina]

What He did do, was start with then, and cover the church age:Matt 244 ...Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Quote)So how easy you forget what ever verse's do not suit your doctrine What is the subject of this chapter ?? 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

 

[lecoop]

(kriss;50300)
What He did do, was start with then, and cover the church age:Matt 244 ...Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Quote)So how easy you forget what ever verse's do not suit your doctrine What is the subject of this chapter ?? 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
Exactly! Did you read over the part that said, "When will this happen?" He did indeed, cover the coming, and He covered the end of the age. But He also covered the entire church age, briefly. Without preconceived glasses, phrases like "beginning of sorrows," and "the end is not yet," really mean something. Many people want to make the Olivet discourse about the church. It is not about the church, but about the Jews. Did you ever notice, they did not call it "Paul's trouble," they called it "Jacob's trouble. It is not called the gentile's 70th week: it is called Daniel's 70th week. Daniel was a Jewish prophet prophesying about the Jews.Kriss, if you are so sure I am wrong, perhaps you will answer the questions I mentioned:Why was no man found?Why was Jesus not at the right hand of the Father?Why did John weep much?Why was the Holy Spirit in the throne room, and not on the earth?Which rider rides alone?How can you understand the first seal, when you do not understand the context of the first seal?Finally, what does "the end is not yet" mean to you?Coop

 

[Jordan]

(lecoop)
(Kriss;50300)
What He did do, was start with then, and cover the church age: Matt 24 4 ...Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Quote) So how easy you forget what ever verse's do not suit your doctrine What is the subject of this chapter ?? 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
Exactly! Did you read over the part that said, "When will this happen?" He did indeed, cover the coming, and He covered the end of the age. But He also covered the entire church age, briefly. Without preconceived glasses, phrases like "beginning of sorrows," and "the end is not yet," really mean something. Many people want to make the Olivet discourse about the church. It is not about the church, but about the Jews. Did you ever notice, they did not call it "Paul's trouble," they called it "Jacob's trouble. It is not called the gentile's 70th week: it is called Daniel's 70th week. Daniel was a Jewish prophet prophesying about the Jews. Kriss, if you are so sure I am wrong, perhaps you will answer the questions I mentioned: Why was no man found? Why was Jesus not at the right hand of the Father? Why did John weep much? Why was the Holy Spirit in the throne room, and not on the earth? Which rider rides alone? How can you understand the first seal, when you do not understand the context of the first seal? Finally, what does "the end is not yet" mean to you? CoopActually I really don't think we can actually help you any longer as you have your heart hardened where you think God is wrong and men is right. You really are such a blind fool.

 

[lecoop]

(thesuperjag;50311)
Actually I really don't think we can actually help you any longer as you have your heart hardened where you think God is wrong and men is right. You really are such a blind fool.
God's word is truth - there is no mistake about that! Neither is my heart hard concering the scriptures. Perhaps it is you that needs help. You think anyone that disagrees with you has a hardened heart? What if you are teaching error, for truth? I will tell you - this kind of answer - calling someone that disagrees with you a blind fool - calling anthing that you disagree with as "lies" - is not becoming of a mature teacher. Do you think the Lord is pleased with your teaching?You have yet to explain the context of the first seal. It seems to the readers then, that you don't understand the context. If you don't, the adult thing to do, would be to go study to show yourself approved - not call those that disagree with you fools.You know as well as I do, that there is nothing written about the first seal, that would give even a hint that it is the antichrst. Yet you insist it is so - just because it is what you believe. You insist that John's chronology is not right, and think you have the ability to straighten him out. What if you are wrong? James said, "My brethren, be not many masters, [teachers] knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Coop

 

[Jordan]

(lecoop;50314)
God's word is truth - there is no mistake about that! Neither is my heart hard concering the scriptures. Perhaps it is you that needs help. You think anyone that disagrees with you has a hardened heart? What if you are teaching error, for truth? I will tell you - this kind of answer - calling someone that disagrees with you a blind fool - calling anthing that you disagree with as "lies" - is not becoming of a mature teacher. Do you think the Lord is pleased with your teaching?You have yet to explain the context of the first seal. It seems to the readers then, that you don't understand the context. If you don't, the adult thing to do, would be to go study to show yourself approved - not call those that disagree with you fools.You know as well as I do, that there is nothing written about the first seal, that would give even a hint that it is the antichrst. Yet you insist it is so - just because it is what you believe. You insist that John's chronology is not right, and think you have the ability to straighten him out. What if you are wrong? James said, "My brethren, be not many masters, [teachers] knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Coop
Nice to know a person can quote scripture yet refuse to believe what Christ said. I can safely say that Christ is so displeased with every man-made doctrine, that men creates. Once again, men thinks they know everything, yet they know nothing.It is not John chronology that I do not disagree... It is men teaching that I hate. It is a bit sad for a person to twist Christ's words yet they say it's God's words...

 

[Christina]

(lecoop;50302)
Exactly! Did you read over the part that said, "When will this happen?" He did indeed, cover the coming, and He covered the end of the age. But He also covered the entire church age, briefly. Without preconceived glasses, phrases like "beginning of sorrows," and "the end is not yet," really mean something. Many people want to make the Olivet discourse about the church. It is not about the church, but about the Jews. Did you ever notice, they did not call it "Paul's trouble," they called it "Jacob's trouble. It is not called the gentile's 70th week: it is called Daniel's 70th week. Daniel was a Jewish prophet prophesying about the Jews.Kriss, if you are so sure I am wrong, perhaps you will answer the questions I mentioned:Why was no man found?Why was Jesus not at the right hand of the Father?Why did John weep much?Why was the Holy Spirit in the throne room, and not on the earth?Which rider rides alone?How can you understand the first seal, when you do not understand the context of the first seal?Finally, what does "the end is not yet" mean to you?Coop
LOL .....I understand fine....but I will not participate in this prevertion of the Word....believe what ever suits you....