Hong Kong Reports Mainland Chinese Eating InfantsThe Next Magazine Mar 29, 2007 You have to be kidding right? Unfortunately this is really happening! The Next Magazine, a weekly publication from Hong Kong, reported that infant corpses and fetuses have become the newest supplements for health and beauty in China. Not only is the placenta considered a beauty remedy, but also aborted fetuses are much sought after delicacies. In Guangdong, gourmet body parts are in high demand and can even be purchased through hospitals. The magazine's investigations into this form of cannibalism took them to Liaoning province. According to The Next Magazine, during a banquet hosted by a Taiwanese businessman, a servant Ms Liu from Liaoning province on the mainland inadvertently revealed the habit of eating infants/fetuses in Liaoning province and her intention to return for the supplement due to health concerns. The Taiwanese women present were horrified. Ms Liu also disclosed that even though people can afford the human parts there are still waiting lists and those with the right connections get the "highest quality" human parts, which translates to the more mature fetuses. A male fetus is considered the "prime" human part. At the The Next Magazine's request, Ms Liu personally escorted the reporter to a location where a fetus was being prepared. The reporter observed a woman chopping up a male fetus and making soup from the placenta. During the process, the woman even tried to comfort everyone by saying, "Don't be afraid, this is just the flesh of a higher animal." The boy's remains were cremated in the mountains in accordance with the customs of the region. In fact, in China, reports about meals made from infant flesh have surfaced from time to time. A video is on the Internet for people to view. In the introduction, the Chinese claim that eating a human fetus is an art form. On March 22, 2003, police in Bingyan, Guangxi Province seized 28 female babies smuggled in a truck from Yulin, Guangxi Province going to Houzhou in Anhui Province. The oldest baby was only three months old. The babies were packed three or four to a bag and many of them were near death—none were claimed by their parents. On the morning of October 9, 2004, a person rifling through the garbage on the outskirts of Jiuquan city in the Suzhou region, found dismembered babies in a dumpster. There were two heads, two torsos, four arms, and six legs. According to the investigation, these corpses were no more than a week old and they had been dismembered after cooking. Although China has laws that prohibit the eating of human fetus, the regime's forced abortions to ensure the one child policy is strictly adhered to thereby creating many opportunities for these sorts of atrocities to occur. What would make people do such a thing without any fear of condemnation? Since Mao's Cultural Revolution, a complete lack of morality and respect for human life has become the norm in China. Over time, domination by the Chinese Communist regime has led to inhuman behavior and human rights violations resulting in abnormal practices such as cannibalism. Click here to read the original article in Chinesehttp://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-3-29/53482.html--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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OH my...I can not imagine depravity so deep... this is what will come of the doing away of the Word of God .........all you atheists see what happens? Is this what you desire for the world to be like?
(kriss;8478)
Click here to read the original article in Chinese
Link is invalid. If this is true, it's probably one of the worst thing I've ever read, si i hope it's not.
Click here to read the original article in Chinese
Link is invalid. If this is true, it's probably one of the worst thing I've ever read, si i hope it's not.
(Shingy;8518)
Link is invalid. If this is true, it's probably one of the worst thing I've ever read, si i hope it's not.
Thats not the link if you want the link where I got the story here ya gohttp://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-3-29/53482.html
Link is invalid. If this is true, it's probably one of the worst thing I've ever read, si i hope it's not.
Thats not the link if you want the link where I got the story here ya gohttp://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-3-29/53482.html
I did some checking and "Next Magazine" seems to be Chinese equlivent of "The National Enquirer". 1 part truth, 1 part exaggeration, and 1 part pure fiction.Even if everything in the story is 100% true, which is doubtful, all you have is three isloated stories of human cannibalism spread out over several years. China has over a billion people, every population has it's nuts. It is an outright lie to say "Mainland Chinese are Eating Infants". But it looks like the forumers here fell for it.It's funny how readily people will accept things that confirm their view of the world. In this case you can link and condem communism, abortion, and atheism in a single story. Very appealing to most the people on this board I would guess.
(betchevy;8495)
.........all you atheists see what happens? Is this what you desire for the world to be like?
How does a person even make such a conclusion? Please expain to me you reasoning here.
.........all you atheists see what happens? Is this what you desire for the world to be like?
How does a person even make such a conclusion? Please expain to me you reasoning here.
(quote)Even if everything in the story is 100% true, which is doubtful, all you have is three isloated stories of human cannibalism spread out over several years.(quote)What the H--- is the matter with you.You are so busy trying to prove christians a bad thing you think this is O.K. because its not main stream. Just like one or two Murdered kids is O.K. You are an ill human being. And you say religion is whats wrong with the world. Even if this story never happened what kind of people think this is entertainment?????? China is mostly an atheists country so guess that tells us. And you seem to have no problem with it. How dare you turn this on us for condemning the behavior or even the thought of it. When this is from your world the world of atheists. Oh! yeah the world would be a better place without religion around to condem this abomination. NOT
It's funny how readily people will accept things that confirm their view of the world. In this case you can link and condem communism, abortion, and atheism in a single story. Very appealing to most the people on this board I would guess.
It's so very ironic how people expose their true motives as well. Why don't you post the information here in a respectable manner because maybe the thread starter made a mistake? Not like that matters much to you though now does it? You're here to make trouble and here to pull stunts like these. Just waiting for a fight; not interested in discussion. Full of assumptions and condemning people for exactly what you're doing. And you're right, I think it should come as no surprise that we condemn the eating of human flesh and killing of babies. That should not really come as a surprise to most sane individuals. Google cannibalism in America and you get speculation about history and discussion about movies. Google Cannibalism in China and you get articles and books written on the subject about modern times.
It's so very ironic how people expose their true motives as well. Why don't you post the information here in a respectable manner because maybe the thread starter made a mistake? Not like that matters much to you though now does it? You're here to make trouble and here to pull stunts like these. Just waiting for a fight; not interested in discussion. Full of assumptions and condemning people for exactly what you're doing. And you're right, I think it should come as no surprise that we condemn the eating of human flesh and killing of babies. That should not really come as a surprise to most sane individuals. Google cannibalism in America and you get speculation about history and discussion about movies. Google Cannibalism in China and you get articles and books written on the subject about modern times.
(kriss;8611)
What the H--- is the matter with you.
No need to get angry. Can't we have a civil discussion here?
(kriss)
You are so busy trying to prove christians a bad thing you think this is O.K. because its not main stream.
Where have I ever said that Christanity was a bad thing? Please show where I have said this.(kriss)
Just like one or two Murdered kids is O.K. You are an ill human being.
When did I every say or imply this? I was merely pointing out that saying "Chinese Eats Infants" is compleatly misleading. There are occasionally similar stories from the U.S. Would you ever say that "Americans are eating infants"?(kriss)
And you say religion is whats wrong with the world.
Please look through my posts and show me where I have made any such statement.(kriss)
Even if this story never happened what kind of people think this is entertainment?????? China is mostly an atheists country so guess that tells us.
This is what it come down to isn't it? You see China as a "atheist" country and like to condemm it anyway possible. You don't even care if the story is not true, you are going to condemm them just as much anyway.(kriss)
Oh! yeah the world would be a better place without religion around to condem this abomination. NOT
Once again, please show where I have made any such statement. Will you do this?
What the H--- is the matter with you.
No need to get angry. Can't we have a civil discussion here?
You are so busy trying to prove christians a bad thing you think this is O.K. because its not main stream.
Where have I ever said that Christanity was a bad thing? Please show where I have said this.(kriss)
Just like one or two Murdered kids is O.K. You are an ill human being.
When did I every say or imply this? I was merely pointing out that saying "Chinese Eats Infants" is compleatly misleading. There are occasionally similar stories from the U.S. Would you ever say that "Americans are eating infants"?(kriss)
And you say religion is whats wrong with the world.
Please look through my posts and show me where I have made any such statement.(kriss)
Even if this story never happened what kind of people think this is entertainment?????? China is mostly an atheists country so guess that tells us.
This is what it come down to isn't it? You see China as a "atheist" country and like to condemm it anyway possible. You don't even care if the story is not true, you are going to condemm them just as much anyway.(kriss)
Oh! yeah the world would be a better place without religion around to condem this abomination. NOT
Once again, please show where I have made any such statement. Will you do this?
(SwampFox)
And you're right, I think it should come as no surprise that we condemn the eating of human flesh and killing of babies. That should not really come as a surprise to most sane individuals.
This is not the issue. We agree that killing and eating of babies is wrong. The issue I brought up is how these stories were being portrayed as some sort of result of Atheism. I also mentioned that I believe the "Atheism-baby killing" link is why so many people here believed it so readily.Do you disagree with this assessment? Would have an article titled "Infant Cannibalism Rampant in Utah" have been believed so readily? Would it have even been posted here? I would guess not. But mabey you disagree.(SwampFox)
Google cannibalism in America and you get speculation about history and discussion about movies. Google Cannibalism in China and you get articles and books written on the subject about modern times.
Look, I don't claim to be a expert in this area. Off the top of you head, what percentage of Chinese do you think have ever killed and eaten a babby? I would be shocked if the number was even as high as .1%.
And you're right, I think it should come as no surprise that we condemn the eating of human flesh and killing of babies. That should not really come as a surprise to most sane individuals.
This is not the issue. We agree that killing and eating of babies is wrong. The issue I brought up is how these stories were being portrayed as some sort of result of Atheism. I also mentioned that I believe the "Atheism-baby killing" link is why so many people here believed it so readily.Do you disagree with this assessment? Would have an article titled "Infant Cannibalism Rampant in Utah" have been believed so readily? Would it have even been posted here? I would guess not. But mabey you disagree.(SwampFox)
Google cannibalism in America and you get speculation about history and discussion about movies. Google Cannibalism in China and you get articles and books written on the subject about modern times.
Look, I don't claim to be a expert in this area. Off the top of you head, what percentage of Chinese do you think have ever killed and eaten a babby? I would be shocked if the number was even as high as .1%.
(radiofreethinking;8620)
This is not the issue. We agree that killing and eating of babies is wrong. The issue I brought up is how these stories were being portrayed as some sort of result of Atheism. I also mentioned that I believe the "Atheism-baby killing" link is why so many people here believed it so readily.Do you disagree with this assessment? Would have an article titled "Infant Cannibalism Rampant in Utah" have been believed so readily? Would it have even been posted here? I would guess not. But mabey you disagree.Look, I don't claim to be a expert in this area. Off the top of you head, what percentage of Chinese do you think have ever killed and eaten a babby? I would be shocked if the number was even as high as .1%.
The article says nothing about atheists it was a posters observation So as a Christian if an observation is true (sense China is atheists) we shouldn't say it because it might offend atheist? But as an atheists you can offend us continually sounds pretty hypocritical to me. Especially Sense you claim that we believe in fairy tales and it is you who who believe truth . Do you expect us to apologize that we believe if the Chinese were Christians this abomination wouldn't be happening. Can you deny the country is atheist? Can you deny it most likely happens? Can you deny if the country were christians this would not happen without outrage? So you have no point.This just goes to show how narrow mined you atheists are you aren't about science and finding truth. Your only goal is to deny any believe but your ownAs swampfox says your true colors always come out. You aren't about truth. You are against God.If it had happened in Utah we would have called it an abomination against God. which is what we called this.
This is not the issue. We agree that killing and eating of babies is wrong. The issue I brought up is how these stories were being portrayed as some sort of result of Atheism. I also mentioned that I believe the "Atheism-baby killing" link is why so many people here believed it so readily.Do you disagree with this assessment? Would have an article titled "Infant Cannibalism Rampant in Utah" have been believed so readily? Would it have even been posted here? I would guess not. But mabey you disagree.Look, I don't claim to be a expert in this area. Off the top of you head, what percentage of Chinese do you think have ever killed and eaten a babby? I would be shocked if the number was even as high as .1%.
The article says nothing about atheists it was a posters observation So as a Christian if an observation is true (sense China is atheists) we shouldn't say it because it might offend atheist? But as an atheists you can offend us continually sounds pretty hypocritical to me. Especially Sense you claim that we believe in fairy tales and it is you who who believe truth . Do you expect us to apologize that we believe if the Chinese were Christians this abomination wouldn't be happening. Can you deny the country is atheist? Can you deny it most likely happens? Can you deny if the country were christians this would not happen without outrage? So you have no point.This just goes to show how narrow mined you atheists are you aren't about science and finding truth. Your only goal is to deny any believe but your ownAs swampfox says your true colors always come out. You aren't about truth. You are against God.If it had happened in Utah we would have called it an abomination against God. which is what we called this.
(kriss)
So as a Christian if an observation is true (sense China is atheists) we shouldn't say it because it might offend atheist? But as an atheists you can offend us continually sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
I not offended. I am just point out what seems to me to a faulty conclusion on your part. Correct me if I am wrong, but the concensus here seems to be that atheism encourges the killing of infants as described in the story.(kriss)
Do you expect us to apologize that we believe if the Chinese were Christians this abomination wouldn't be happening.
I don't care if you apologize, but I think your belief that non-Christans, especially atheists, are more prone to evil acts the Christans is simply wrong.(kriss)
Can you deny the country is atheist?
While the goverment is offically atheist, most of it's citizens are not. I would guess that there are a number of countries with a higher percentage of atheist then China has. So if atheism encourges cannibalism, shouldn't we find many more of these stories comeing out of places like some European countries with high numbers of atheists?(kriss)
Can you deny it most likely happens?
What? The events describe in story, or Cannibalism in China in general? I find the story to be not creditable. But I am sure it does go on to some extend in China as it does the U.S. Every place has it's psychopaths.(kriss)
Can you deny if the country were christians this would not happen without outrage?
You are assumeing that such events can happen in China without outrage.(kriss)
So you have no point.This just goes to show how narrow mined you atheists are you aren't about science and finding truth. Your only goal is to deny any believe but your ownAs swampfox says your true colors always come out. You aren't about truth. You are against God.
You have compleaty lost me here. I don't follow what you are saying.
So as a Christian if an observation is true (sense China is atheists) we shouldn't say it because it might offend atheist? But as an atheists you can offend us continually sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
I not offended. I am just point out what seems to me to a faulty conclusion on your part. Correct me if I am wrong, but the concensus here seems to be that atheism encourges the killing of infants as described in the story.(kriss)
Do you expect us to apologize that we believe if the Chinese were Christians this abomination wouldn't be happening.
I don't care if you apologize, but I think your belief that non-Christans, especially atheists, are more prone to evil acts the Christans is simply wrong.(kriss)
Can you deny the country is atheist?
While the goverment is offically atheist, most of it's citizens are not. I would guess that there are a number of countries with a higher percentage of atheist then China has. So if atheism encourges cannibalism, shouldn't we find many more of these stories comeing out of places like some European countries with high numbers of atheists?(kriss)
Can you deny it most likely happens?
What? The events describe in story, or Cannibalism in China in general? I find the story to be not creditable. But I am sure it does go on to some extend in China as it does the U.S. Every place has it's psychopaths.(kriss)
Can you deny if the country were christians this would not happen without outrage?
You are assumeing that such events can happen in China without outrage.(kriss)
So you have no point.This just goes to show how narrow mined you atheists are you aren't about science and finding truth. Your only goal is to deny any believe but your ownAs swampfox says your true colors always come out. You aren't about truth. You are against God.
You have compleaty lost me here. I don't follow what you are saying.
I would like all to now Radio realized he was offensive, so much so he apologized to me in a pm before I even read the post. I think our love and prayers may even be effecting his rhino hide. I will not defend myself here. I don't beleve its even debate worthy... The news in Houston tonight included a report on "Where in the world is it a crime to be a Christian?" China...they included the many thousands who choose to believe and worship in spite of the consequenses. Cannabalism , abortion , atheism...I would not wish any of these blights on any country, or individual....I really mourn for a country and a people who are so challenged. WE are truly blessed to be living in this place and this time.Where the worse foe we have to face is our radiofree.
RadiofreeThis is the problem with atheist thinking, you take no responsponsibility and everything is hypocritical. You never really face up to the truth of what you are. You live lies and convince yourself they are true. Lets see if you got enough guts to see yourself for what you areyou have two choices1. You believe only in facts and science therefore you believe in Evolution. That man evolved from lower forms of apes/animals. If this is true why would you see anything wrong with people eating their young. It occurs in the animal kingdom all the time. 2. If you are not number one then you must believe that for some reasonman is a higher creature than animals. There is no explanation for this in evolution so you have can only account for it in creation if there is creation then there must be a creator.There is no in between.If you choose #1 then you are a hypocrite and live a liebecause there is No morality in the animal kingdom there is only life and death nothing more. If you think it is morally wrong for humans to eat thier young Morality is a religious concept. So you can't have it both ways,you want to choose to have morals. But belief in Morality comes from a belief in creation and a creator. Morality and evolution are opposite concepts.Evolution only allows for physical changes intelligence can create civil lawsbut if eating your young does not break civil laws it should be acceptable to a true atheist. If it is not acceptable to you. Because it is morally wrong then you are not an atheist. You just live a lie claiming to not believe in a creator yet wanting to live according to concepts of a creator. knowing right and wrong, being a decent person,helping a friend in need these are NOT things of the animal kingdom they are things of the soul,The soul is a concept of a creator. So it is you that lives the lie wanting to benefit from living in a Moral worldbut denying the reasons that Morals exist
(betchevy;8624)
I would like all to now Radio realized he was offensive, so much so he apologized to me in a pm before I even read the post.
Just to clarify here, while I do admit I was somewhat condescending in my initial post in this thread (and this thread only). I think it pales in comparison to what was said to me. Furthermore, I stand my by statement that I have never mocked or belittled Christanity in any way, other then saying I don't share your beliefs. I am still waiting for kriss to eaither show where I have said the things she has accused me of saying, or retracting her statements. Kriss, you are wrong to believe that an atheist can not live by a set of morals. The basis for your's and my morals are just different. Your basis is "What does the bible say about X". My basis, quickly stated, is "Does X cause more direct misery, then it does happiness" For some questions like "Is killing someone for $20 dollars ok?". Your set of morals and my set of morals are in agreement. For other questions like "Is homosexuality ok?" the basis of our morals results in different answers.
I would like all to now Radio realized he was offensive, so much so he apologized to me in a pm before I even read the post.
Just to clarify here, while I do admit I was somewhat condescending in my initial post in this thread (and this thread only). I think it pales in comparison to what was said to me. Furthermore, I stand my by statement that I have never mocked or belittled Christanity in any way, other then saying I don't share your beliefs. I am still waiting for kriss to eaither show where I have said the things she has accused me of saying, or retracting her statements. Kriss, you are wrong to believe that an atheist can not live by a set of morals. The basis for your's and my morals are just different. Your basis is "What does the bible say about X". My basis, quickly stated, is "Does X cause more direct misery, then it does happiness" For some questions like "Is killing someone for $20 dollars ok?". Your set of morals and my set of morals are in agreement. For other questions like "Is homosexuality ok?" the basis of our morals results in different answers.
(radiofreethinking;8609)
I did some checking and "Next Magazine" seems to be Chinese equlivent of "The National Enquirer". 1 part truth, 1 part exaggeration, and 1 part pure fiction.Even if everything in the story is 100% true, which is doubtful, all you have is three isloated stories of human cannibalism spread out over several years. China has over a billion people, every population has it's nuts. It is an outright lie to say "Mainland Chinese are Eating Infants". But it looks like the forumers here fell for it.It's funny how readily people will accept things that confirm their view of the world. In this case you can link and condem communism, abortion, and atheism in a single story. Very appealing to most the people on this board I would guess.
I retract nothing I posted this article because as a mother and a christian I was appalled and horrified at the thought It never occurred to me about it being an atheist country or anything a bout an abortion statement.It was plain and simple outrage disgust. someone else made a statement after the fact about atheists. Yet according to you it was some statement to reinforce our point of view Do you show outrage, No, not till I asked what kind of person you are You go about trying to prove the article is a fake to make a point I had some ulterior motive to post it. You don't know its fake you are using your opinion to make a point.about my ulterior motives,which never existed. So another words I can't even be an outraged mother without you trying to use that against my/our christian believes. Then tell me how respectful you are. every time someone makes a simple statement you try to make something out of it. Do you think this is funny Christianity is who we are it defines everything we do everything we think, the way we live, the way we raise our kids and you mock it and say gee why you guys get so upset.are you picking number 1 or 2 or is the truth to deep for you.
I did some checking and "Next Magazine" seems to be Chinese equlivent of "The National Enquirer". 1 part truth, 1 part exaggeration, and 1 part pure fiction.Even if everything in the story is 100% true, which is doubtful, all you have is three isloated stories of human cannibalism spread out over several years. China has over a billion people, every population has it's nuts. It is an outright lie to say "Mainland Chinese are Eating Infants". But it looks like the forumers here fell for it.It's funny how readily people will accept things that confirm their view of the world. In this case you can link and condem communism, abortion, and atheism in a single story. Very appealing to most the people on this board I would guess.
I retract nothing I posted this article because as a mother and a christian I was appalled and horrified at the thought It never occurred to me about it being an atheist country or anything a bout an abortion statement.It was plain and simple outrage disgust. someone else made a statement after the fact about atheists. Yet according to you it was some statement to reinforce our point of view Do you show outrage, No, not till I asked what kind of person you are You go about trying to prove the article is a fake to make a point I had some ulterior motive to post it. You don't know its fake you are using your opinion to make a point.about my ulterior motives,which never existed. So another words I can't even be an outraged mother without you trying to use that against my/our christian believes. Then tell me how respectful you are. every time someone makes a simple statement you try to make something out of it. Do you think this is funny Christianity is who we are it defines everything we do everything we think, the way we live, the way we raise our kids and you mock it and say gee why you guys get so upset.are you picking number 1 or 2 or is the truth to deep for you.
I agree Kriss....Radio is only worthy of our pity...Not only has he angered God,, but is messing with those God loves most,, those who love Him and keep His commandments...Radio will be the one to suffer, our painful memories will one day be wiped out, perhaps the reason for them will go with them...He would have never known the love and joy from knowing one moment of the relationship we have with our beloved Father....and rise as the smoke....Its okay for China to abort babies....make it a crime to believe in God....but I bet a God who would defend the innocent is a bully in his book...Be thankful, but for the grace of God, there we go...
Eating human infacts...That is so disgusting and morally wrong. Just wrong. And I also hate abortion with a passion.
(radiofreethinking;8672)
Kriss, you are wrong to believe that an atheist can not live by a set of morals. The basis for your's and my morals are just different. Your basis is "What does the bible say about X". My basis, quickly stated, is "Does X cause more direct misery, then it does happiness"For some questions like "Is killing someone for $20 dollars ok?". Your set of morals and my set of morals are in agreement. For other questions like "Is homosexuality ok?" the basis of our morals results in different answers.
I knew you would skirt the question because it would require you to look at what you are saying you are. You are fine with playing your little games with our beliefs. But when I turn the table and ask you to examine yours you squirm like a worm it was a very simple question. That's the problem with your way of thinking you claim to be atheist because its the easy way out.You think that your way of thinking is superior because we believe God when he says homosexuality is a sin. But do you really think about what you say?and the consequinces.If homosexuality were widely accepted around he world as normal.diasease would explode,birth rates drop, medical care skyrocket, morals would degrade,young people confused about their sexuality,How long before other perversions start demanding their rights?What about people that molest kids do they deserve rights? Where do you atheists decide to draw the line ? Or is everything O.K. even eating your young.In essence it would over time destroy the fabric of our society.But then that requires taking a stand somewhere something you guys don't have guts to do. Everything is O.K. long as it doesn't effect me. Is your philosophy. God in his effort to save us from ourselves tells us to hate the sin of Sodomy/homosexuality but love and to not to Judge the sinner/personSo show me how your way is better to what end.Well I ask qustions I doubt you will answer because it would require you to examine yourself and make a stand on something besides judging Christians.
Kriss, you are wrong to believe that an atheist can not live by a set of morals. The basis for your's and my morals are just different. Your basis is "What does the bible say about X". My basis, quickly stated, is "Does X cause more direct misery, then it does happiness"For some questions like "Is killing someone for $20 dollars ok?". Your set of morals and my set of morals are in agreement. For other questions like "Is homosexuality ok?" the basis of our morals results in different answers.
I knew you would skirt the question because it would require you to look at what you are saying you are. You are fine with playing your little games with our beliefs. But when I turn the table and ask you to examine yours you squirm like a worm it was a very simple question. That's the problem with your way of thinking you claim to be atheist because its the easy way out.You think that your way of thinking is superior because we believe God when he says homosexuality is a sin. But do you really think about what you say?and the consequinces.If homosexuality were widely accepted around he world as normal.diasease would explode,birth rates drop, medical care skyrocket, morals would degrade,young people confused about their sexuality,How long before other perversions start demanding their rights?What about people that molest kids do they deserve rights? Where do you atheists decide to draw the line ? Or is everything O.K. even eating your young.In essence it would over time destroy the fabric of our society.But then that requires taking a stand somewhere something you guys don't have guts to do. Everything is O.K. long as it doesn't effect me. Is your philosophy. God in his effort to save us from ourselves tells us to hate the sin of Sodomy/homosexuality but love and to not to Judge the sinner/personSo show me how your way is better to what end.Well I ask qustions I doubt you will answer because it would require you to examine yourself and make a stand on something besides judging Christians.
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