Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

[amigo de christo]

Preach the CROSS of CHRIST
not the wisdom of men lest the cross of CHRIST be of no effect .
This wee sheep keeps , by grace , things real simple .
I simply POINT to the ONLY ONE who can save and who does give ETERNAL LIFE .
AND HIS NAME BE JESUS the GLORIOUS , the wonderous , the King of kings and Lord of Lords .
JESUS CHRIST and him crucified .
YE must BELEIVE ON HIM . He who hears my words and does them not
is like a man that built that house of his on the sands . And that house gonna fall on the DAY of THE GLORIOUS
and THE WONDEROUS CHRIST OF GOD ALL MIGHTY who has been given all authority
and shall be the JUDGE Of all men . Better be a sheep is all i can say and sheep BELEIVE HIM .
cause goats WILL WAIL on HIS DAY .

 

[Lambano]

Now you have a 45 on your hip...

Nah. There's no way to comfortably carry a full-size 1911 concealed. If I carry it at the 4:00 position, it prints when I bend over. If I carry it AIWB (appendix, inside-the-waistband), it muzzles my avocados. (Ouch!) And it still prints. I prefer my 9mm or .380 ACP or even a snub-nosed .38.

 

[St. SteVen]

I personally think truth is what is understood from God's living word, or revelation. It's checks all of the boxes for our human verification process. It is experiential, it is evidential, it has supporting facts. It is not just subjective, but also objective, even if it doesn't fit within the requirements of physical science or human control.

Good post, thanks.
We need to remember that there is no consensus on what the means.
All that subjective "truth" can't lead to absolute truth.

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[Marvelloustime]

Preach the CROSS of CHRIST
not the wisdom of men lest the cross of CHRIST be of no effect .
This wee sheep keeps , by grace , things real simple .
I simply POINT to the ONLY ONE who can save and who does give ETERNAL LIFE .
AND HIS NAME BE JESUS the GLORIOUS , the wonderous , the King of kings and Lord of Lords .
JESUS CHRIST and him crucified .
YE must BELEIVE ON HIM . He who hears my words and does them not
is like a man that built that house of his on the sands . And that house gonna fall on the DAY of THE GLORIOUS
and THE WONDEROUS CHRIST OF GOD ALL MIGHTY who has been given all authority
and shall be the JUDGE Of all men . Better be a sheep is all i can say and sheep BELEIVE HIM .
cause goats WILL WAIL on HIS DAY .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Oh there is a very real connection between the Transcendent GOD and created man .
But many hear not His voice for they are not his sheep .
HIS NAME BE JESUS THE CHRIST .
men can speculate on how it was all created
and even have enough wisdom perhaps to beleive A GOD did create it
and yet they simply DO NOT know the WAY to THIS GOD . but the sheep sure do .
And they hear his voice and love His words and do not do as the many
who twist and omit such lovely words OF HIS INSPIRED TRUTH in that bible .
There is a knoweldge given unto man that shows enough evidence that there is A GOD
but man worships HIM not AS HE DESIRED . IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH . I am THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE
and yet many reject HIM and follow budda , muahmmed or some other jesus created of men within christendom
and that voice , that entity , oh it cannot save , it has come to KEEP MEN IN BONDAGE , TO KEEP THEM IN DEATH
and has promised them a lie that offers them salvation on a very very broad inclusive road .
OH but BROAD is the ROAD that leads to DESTRUCTION . May that reminder encourage us all .

@amigo de christo

 

[St. SteVen]

New topic.

Hell as the default for humankind?

The Plan? - Create humankind in your own image. - Give them free-will to choose. - Pay their sin debt. - Send them to Hell for not accepting a free gift. What's wrong with this picture? [

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[St. SteVen]

Jesus said to Pilate, "... the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth.
Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Pilate asked Jesus, "What is truth?" - John 18:37-38 NIV

Still a good question.

Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus said to Pilate, "... the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth.
Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Pilate asked Jesus, "What is truth?" - John 18:37-38 NIV

Still a good question.

Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

YES . ITS GOD ALL MIGHTY , CHRIST and all HIS lovely words left to us in the scriptures .
By which all men must be tested . For many often claim to hear a word from the Lord
a thus sayeth the LORD , and yet them words DO contradict HIS words .

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus said to Pilate, "... the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth.
Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Pilate asked Jesus, "What is truth?" - John 18:37-38 NIV

Still a good question.

Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

i DO and so should you

"Everyone on the side of truth listens to ME.”

 

[St. SteVen]

i DO and so should you

"Everyone on the side of truth listens to ME.”

Is that A truth or THE absolute truth?

Is there more? Is there consensus?

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[KUWN]

Don't mix up truth with interpretation. Every interpretation is the by-product of an interpretive method. Some people use a spiritual interpretation method while others use a literal interpretation method. These two factors will produce an interpretation of a passage quite differently from each other. Important to remember is that the literal method will interpret some passages spiritually because it meets the criteria of "a spiritual passage." Likewise, a person who is a spiritual interpreter will interpret some passages literally because the conditions for a literal interpretation are present.

 

[St. SteVen]

Don't mix up truth with interpretation. Every interpretation is the by-product of an interpretive method. Some people use a spiritual interpretation method while others use a literal interpretation method. These two factors will produce an interpretation of a passage quite differently from each other. Important to remember is that the literal method will interpret some passages spiritually because it meets the criteria of "a spiritual passage." Likewise, a person who is a spiritual interpreter will interpret some passages literally because the conditions for a literal interpretation are present.

Can the Bible be understood by the common reader?
If not, why would God purposely obscure the message?

 

[Behold]

Can the Bible be understood by the common reader

So, the anwer to the question is.....

JESUS is THE Truth.

John 14:6

 

[KUWN]

Can the Bible be understood by the common reader?
If not, why would God purposely obscure the message?

What do you mean by common reader? Is this a reference to unbelievers, or Christians also?
Read Rom 1 to see the pregospel understanding unbelievers have (quote previously) about God and judgment. I am afraid I don't quite follow your questions. Where, for example, do we find a text show that God has obscured the gospel to anyone?

 

[St. SteVen]

What do you mean by common reader? Is this a reference to unbelievers, or Christians also?

Both.

Where, for example, do we find a text show that God has obscured the gospel to anyone?

That was your claim.

 

[Wick Stick]

Nah. There's no way to comfortably carry a full-size 1911 concealed. If I carry it at the 4:00 position, it prints when I bend over. If I carry it AIWB (appendix, inside-the-waistband), it muzzles my avocados. (Ouch! And it still prints.) I prefer my 9mm or .380 ACP or even a snub-nosed .38.

If you're carrying a 1911, isn't the point for it to be seen?

 

[KUWN]

Both.

That was your claim.

I don't recall saying anything close to that

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Don't mix up truth with interpretation. Every interpretation is the by-product of an interpretive method. Some people use a spiritual interpretation method while others use a literal interpretation method. These two factors will produce an interpretation of a passage quite differently from each other. Important to remember is that the literal method will interpret some passages spiritually because it meets the criteria of "a spiritual passage." Likewise, a person who is a spiritual interpreter will interpret some passages literally because the conditions for a literal interpretation are present.

Jesus is absolute truth! If you cannot take Jesus at HIs word- you have the issue. The word of God is not subject to interpretation, but obedience.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Jesus said to Pilate, "... the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth.
Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” Pilate asked Jesus, "What is truth?" - John 18:37-38 NIV

Still a good question.

Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

Why take Jesus at His Word?

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Does God reveal the same truth to everyone? The "absolute" truth?

Avoid foolish and unlearned questions - 2 Timothy 2:23