The Catechism says that faithful followers of Christ who aren't in the Catholic Church won't be saved. So, Catholics, are non-Catholic "followers" of Christ actually Christian at all?
According to Catholics, are non-Catholic "Christians" actually followers of Christ?
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The Gospel of Christ
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Salvation is through Christ’s finished work on the Cross, by grace through faith (Eph 2:8-9).
The Church doesn’t save; Christ does.
Outside of Christ, there is no salvation, whether you sit in a pew or not.
The Church doesn’t save; Christ does.
Outside of Christ, there is no salvation, whether you sit in a pew or not.
And you shall have no other gods besides the one true God.
amigo de christo
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What would you say
if i told you that many within christendom now follow another jesus .
And it darn sure cannot save them . IT has allowed them all to remain in darkness
in sins , and hollers love love love all day long .
This jesus , this love they preach
calls evil good and good evil . It comes with fangs against the words of GOD all mighty
and his sheep who do expose , who do correct the love of their sin and of their god .
And i i said god , and i said another jesus
BECAUSE GOD is not the minstir of sin , CHRIST is not the minstir of sin
but their jesus kisses korans , holds rainbows and who knows what else .
Many are in bondage but holler we are free as they rejoice in sins and in a lie .
many holler we have liberty , BUT USE THAT LIBERTY as an occasion to serve their flesh .
many holler GOD is love , but use that love to deny HIS own words and to support their own sins .
I am tellling us all this generation is in serious dire deadly trouble and much confusion .
Jesus Christ is the King, the Master, the Savior, the Meaning and the Purpose. His name is the most powerful one of all. No man but Him could ever bear the fullness of His light. He distributes according to His plan.
No servant of the divine has any right to point a finger and judge another's position in salvation, it is not our place to know! In my experience, I am not to ascertain one's degree of salvation, only to add to whatever truth they possess or to add to mine from theirs.
We do not do this work! We convert no one. We plant the seeds, if you could even say that, as the Master is the gardener and we are the branches. He sows and we reap. Should we despise His work and question His determinations? Goodness, no!
Do not fret! Have no fear! We must withhold our condemnation for its impotence unless it is directed at the guilt within, unless it is purposeful to highlight our position in relation to the Master. The unsanctified conscience would do well to turn inward in order to uproot the lies which confine it.
Look at the Master, listen to His words, hear His voice, the Bible is His glorious and flawless message! He is here, He is there, He is in complete control and lacks nothing. What will our temerity in despising sin accomplish? Nothing at all if it is pointed in the wrong direction.
Don't worry about someone else's eternity. Don't worry about someone else's truth. Seek only the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. And God will help.
No servant of the divine has any right to point a finger and judge another's position in salvation, it is not our place to know! In my experience, I am not to ascertain one's degree of salvation, only to add to whatever truth they possess or to add to mine from theirs.
We do not do this work! We convert no one. We plant the seeds, if you could even say that, as the Master is the gardener and we are the branches. He sows and we reap. Should we despise His work and question His determinations? Goodness, no!
Do not fret! Have no fear! We must withhold our condemnation for its impotence unless it is directed at the guilt within, unless it is purposeful to highlight our position in relation to the Master. The unsanctified conscience would do well to turn inward in order to uproot the lies which confine it.
Look at the Master, listen to His words, hear His voice, the Bible is His glorious and flawless message! He is here, He is there, He is in complete control and lacks nothing. What will our temerity in despising sin accomplish? Nothing at all if it is pointed in the wrong direction.
Don't worry about someone else's eternity. Don't worry about someone else's truth. Seek only the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. And God will help.
If there is no salvation outside of the church then those who are not of that church are not Christian.
This is the official position of the RCC and of the Orthodox churches.
This is the official position of the RCC and of the Orthodox churches.
So if salvation is a finished work by grace through faith, why does James say, faith is completed by works? Why would something that's finished need to be completed?
pandaflower
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Catholics are pagans who worship the church. The church tells them what to do. And how to atone for what they do wrong,confess to the church.
The RCC is not in any way shape or form, of or in Christ.
They do not believe their followers are saved. Because they aren't.
They're sprinkled as a ritual to make them indoctrinares into the church. This does not save them.
They do not believe Jesus death on the cross wiped their sins and brought them into salvation eternally.
When they die they believe,because they're told, they go to a purification place, purgatory. Hell-lite. To burn off the sins they committed in life.
But,they'll be sprung early if family pays money to the church to let them out. These monies are called , indulgences.
The RCC is pagan. It violates all orders by God against necromancy,idol worship, etc...
They do not believe faith alone saves.
Their ancient Council of Trent determined 5 Solas that were deemed anathema,cursed, in practice.
The RCC is the church of Satan.
And it's leadership in entirety, College of cardinals,Pope, parish priests/archdiocese,are a copy of the Romans government.
Senate,Caesar, etc....
The RCC is not in any way shape or form, of or in Christ.
They do not believe their followers are saved. Because they aren't.
They're sprinkled as a ritual to make them indoctrinares into the church. This does not save them.
They do not believe Jesus death on the cross wiped their sins and brought them into salvation eternally.
When they die they believe,because they're told, they go to a purification place, purgatory. Hell-lite. To burn off the sins they committed in life.
But,they'll be sprung early if family pays money to the church to let them out. These monies are called , indulgences.
The RCC is pagan. It violates all orders by God against necromancy,idol worship, etc...
They do not believe faith alone saves.
Their ancient Council of Trent determined 5 Solas that were deemed anathema,cursed, in practice.
The RCC is the church of Satan.
And it's leadership in entirety, College of cardinals,Pope, parish priests/archdiocese,are a copy of the Romans government.
Senate,Caesar, etc....
Faith alone doesn't save. That's what scripture says. You've been indoctrinated with heresy but you people are more stubborn than the Jews in the the desert. Your hatred makes you a very unappealing "Christian". If being a Christian means sounding like you then I'll pass but thank God I know you've been brainwashed and real Christians don't sound like you.
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