Adam and Eve, Children and Sin

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In Matthew 18:1–6, Jesus’ disciples asked him who the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven is. (We can presume an invisible paraphrase here saying, ‘after God,’ of course.). Jesus answers in Verse 4, “Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” So, Jesus infers that a child would be the greatest in His Kingdom.

In terms of the Bible, a child would be one who does not know sin and therefore hasn’t sinned in the context of Adam and Eve’s understanding. For, in tha sense, if someone does not know sin, they wouldn’t know enough to commit a sin. For a child, then, sin in any form has not entered its life so far, anyway.

Before Adam and Eve sinned, they were children who did not know sin. By the time they ate the forbidden fruit, they knew sin on two levels; they knew sin after they ate the fruit, and they learned that to disobey God, which they did by eating the fruit despite God’s forbidding them, is a sin.

Had they not sinned, they could have been immortal as would their offspring. In being immortal, it seems they could have lived indefinitely on earth. But because they sinned, God says to them in Genesis 3:19, “…you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” Thus, as it says in Romans 5:12, “…just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned.” Ezekiel 18:20 says “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.” And since each offspring and succeeding generation has come to know sin and commit it, they are fated to the same mortality as Adam and Eve were.

It is rather plain that those who end up in God’s Kingdom enter with a free slate, whether it is a child who never sinned, or a sinner who was cleansed of sin. In God’s Kingdom, a child is greater than a former sinner because the child never sinned.

There’s somewhat of an irony herein Ezekiel 18:20 saying, “The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…” Yet a child, who because of the sins of Adam and Eve, may gain Admittance into God’s Kingdom but he lost the possibility of immortality, that is, to live on the earth forever, because of Adam and Eve’s sins. But a sinless child has the consolation of being the greatest in God’s Kingdom.
 

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In Matthew 18:1–6, Jesus’ disciples asked him who the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven is. (We can presume an invisible paraphrase here saying, ‘after God,’ of course.). Jesus answers in Verse 4, “Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” So, Jesus infers that a child would be the greatest in His Kingdom.
The verse says is LIKE a child.

The rest of your post explained what it's like to be a "child".
 
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In Matthew 18:1–6, Jesus’ disciples asked him who the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven is. (We can presume an invisible paraphrase here saying, ‘after God,’ of course.). Jesus answers in Verse 4, “Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” So, Jesus infers that a child would be the greatest in His Kingdom.

In terms of the Bible, a child would be one who does not know sin and therefore hasn’t sinned in the context of Adam and Eve’s understanding. For, in tha sense, if someone does not know sin, they wouldn’t know enough to commit a sin. For a child, then, sin in any form has not entered its life so far, anyway.

Before Adam and Eve sinned, they were children who did not know sin. By the time they ate the forbidden fruit, they knew sin on two levels; they knew sin after they ate the fruit, and they learned that to disobey God, which they did by eating the fruit despite God’s forbidding them, is a sin.

Had they not sinned, they could have been immortal as would their offspring. In being immortal, it seems they could have lived indefinitely on earth. But because they sinned, God says to them in Genesis 3:19, “…you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” Thus, as it says in Romans 5:12, “…just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned.” Ezekiel 18:20 says “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.” And since each offspring and succeeding generation has come to know sin and commit it, they are fated to the same mortality as Adam and Eve were.

It is rather plain that those who end up in God’s Kingdom enter with a free slate, whether it is a child who never sinned, or a sinner who was cleansed of sin. In God’s Kingdom, a child is greater than a former sinner because the child never sinned.

There’s somewhat of an irony herein Ezekiel 18:20 saying, “The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…” Yet a child, who because of the sins of Adam and Eve, may gain Admittance into God’s Kingdom but he lost the possibility of immortality, that is, to live on the earth forever, because of Adam and Eve’s sins. But a sinless child has the consolation of being the greatest in God’s Kingdom.
Just a few points I would contend with. One, a child is not sinless. His or her inheritance is a "spiritual," and not a physical inheritance. We are born with a spiritual inclination towards rebellion against God. So, even a child in miscarriage is carrying the Sin Nature, even though he has not sinned yet. As such, he may be prohibited from entry into heaven, since he would sin, given the opportunity.

The reason the children of Adam suffer due to Adam's sin, and not their own sin, is because Adam's work for God was reduced to an imperfect work. And this includes the work of reproduction. So, any work that is contaminated by sin cannot produce a perfect product. Hence, children are an imperfect product and cannot attain to heaven apart from God's Grace.

2nd, I wouldn't argue that all children, innocent of overt sin, will enter heaven. God knows what children carry sin that is resistant to Grace even before they are born. The Scriptures indicate there are light punishments, as well as heavy punishments, in the after life. Those consigned to "Outer Darkness" may experience very light punishments if they were children who never sinned and yet were prone to resist God's Grace.

3rd, Jesus' example of children being "greater" has nothing to do with being innocent of sin, though it does have much to do with humility and teachability. Children are not, as I said, innocent of sin. You'd know that if you've ever had a screaming, crying baby. The infant is "furious!" ;) Well, not at all times, but you know what I mean. We all tend to show Grace to a child because we know the child is not yet set in his ways.
 

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If you would like an unadulterated exposure to our “fallen state,” spend some time with toddlers. They are self-centered, with selfish desires, and will do whatever works to satisfy those desires. Yet, it is clearly they are in an amoral state, behaving with motivations they were born with.

It is up to loving parents (and church and community) to inculcate the basics of Love Your Neighbor: learning to be gentle and peaceful (forswearing violence), as well as sharing and caring. It generally takes time (years) for children to change and obey.

When do children “turn the corner” and internalize the importance of Loving Your Neighbor? As teenagers? Young adults? Is disobeying parents before adulthood equivalent to disobeying God? In other words, at what point in a person’s life does God judge that a behavior is deliberately sinful?

Blessings?
 

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If you would like an unadulterated exposure to our “fallen state,” spend some time with toddlers. They are self-centered, with selfish desires, and will do whatever works to satisfy those desires. Yet, it is clearly they are in an amoral state, behaving with motivations they were born with.

It is up to loving parents (and church and community) to inculcate the basics of Love Your Neighbor: learning to be gentle and peaceful (forswearing violence), as well as sharing and caring. It generally takes time (years) for children to change and obey.

When do children “turn the corner” and internalize the importance of Loving Your Neighbor? As teenagers? Young adults? Is disobeying parents before adulthood equivalent to disobeying God? In other words, at what point in a person’s life does God judge that a behavior is deliberately sinful?

Blessings?
At the age of accountability...sml