And just when you thought they couldn't get any loonier...

[Nancy]

David Ike claimed he was Jesus reincarnated. He is a lunatic and a fraud. If he says anything, the truth is probably the opposite. In the uk they banned him because people were setting fire to 5G masts because of his nutcase ideas.

If you want a police state, you let unscientific conspiracy ideas run riot without proper responses or curbing these lunatics. And yes anything could cause anything, but you need to have a reasonable cause and effect. A virus is an organism that comes from living creatures, that can jump species on occasion. 5 G is radio waves, or light at low frequency is what we use for phones etc. The only thing these waves can do is damage biological life, and this is only at massive energies, not even close to what we get in our homes or from masts. Now I know very little in detail about these subjects, but enough to dismiss these lunatics as lunatics.

By the way David Ike believes we are ruled by lizard people. But if you want someone like this to be your authority, you should go a set up your own community somewhere isolated, because that is the only place you will be safe, except the lizard people will be there among you, and you will never know, until it is too late, hahahah. Lol.

And on the subject of lizard people Trump would be one, or else he could not be president

Hahaha Yes, I did scan a para or two and saw that about the Lizard thing. Guy's cray cray

 

[Yehren]

Good point! I got 3 cats of my own.... I sometimes wish I had their life!

Cats and dogs are unique among domesticated animals in that they both seem to have chosen to associate with us, rather than being captured and tamed. Cat were more recent, apparently attracted to the rodents that infested grainaries in early farming settlements. The arrangement suited both of us, and we tolerated them for their killing vermin and they tolerated us for providing good hunting. The "barn cats" on farms pretty much keep that old arrangement intact. We don't own them; they come and go as they please. It's more like a deal between neighbors than the partnership between humans and dogs which is more ancient and much tighter.

It's not to say that cats don't sometimes love us. It's just that they remain independent in their outlook.

 

[Enoch111]

The Eastern European troll farms might not have a single member on this forum; their M.O. is to get people misinformed, and repeat their disinformation. Far as I know, that's what's going on here.

So now you are using Fake News CNN's tactic of calling the truth-tellers liars, while the liars are called truth-tellers!. As Kennedy has shown clearly (and you have failed to admit) there is a Flu Vaccine Conspiracy with Bill Gates at the head. And if you want further evidence, read this:

Dr. Fauci, It’s Not Nice to Fool Congress About Vaccine Reactions
Dr. Fauci, It’s Not Nice to Fool Congress About Vaccine Reactions

Anthony Fauci is another fraud controlled by Gates, who should not even have been on the Task Force, since he himself is responsible for the coronavirus. And how is it that none of this was brought to Trump's attention BEFORE he brought Fauci and Birx on board? That was putting the fox in the hen house.

THE CORONAVIRUS CONSPIRACY
April 18, 2020
Why Did the NIH Fund Wuhan Labs?
By Daniel John Sobieski

PART I

Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz has asked an obvious question, one that has not come up at the daily White House coronavirus press briefing -- why is the Wuhan Virology Lab a grantee of the National Institutes if Health, whose National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) -- headed by one Dr. Anthony Fauci -- and a recipient of $3.7 million to study coronavirus in bats? Gaetz has gone beyond mere curiosity, writing a letter to HHS Secretary Azar demanding the grant be terminated:

Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., called on Health & Human Services Secretary Alex Azar Tuesday to cease funding a research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, telling "Tucker Carlson Tonight" the action could be accomplished "with the stroke of a pen."

"I'm against funding Chinese research in our country, but I'm sure against funding it in China," Gaetz said. "The NIH [National Institutes of Health] gives a $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology [and] they then advertise that they need coronavirus researchers and following that, coronavirus erupts in Wuhan."…

"What's really troubling to me is either conspicuously or miraculously the Wuhan Institute of Virology is able to sequence the virus on January 2 but China doesn't admit to the virus existing until January 9 and then the Wuhan Institute of Virology doesn't release this important scientific information to the world until January 12," Gaetz said.

"So at best, Americans are funding people who are lying to us and at worst, we're funding people who we knew had problems handling pathogens, who then birthed a monster virus onto the world," he added.

If you go to the Wuhan Institute of Virology website ad look under “Partnerships” you will see listed “the National Institutes of Health of the United States” along with the likes of the University of Alabama, the University of North Texas, Harvard University, EcoHealth Alliance, among others, and the National Wildlife Federation, presumably interested in any connection between the horseshoe bat and coronavirus.

Yet, after the virus outbreak, China would not let U.S. health authorities in to examine the labs and their safeguards, to interview staff and collect samples, both from the animals used in tests at the lab or tissue samples from earl victims. Tissue samples were destroyed, bodies hidden and cremated and false statements made about the possibility of human-to-human transmission passed on to the world through China’s sock puppet, the World (or is it Wuhan) Health Organization. To this day, serious access and scrutiny is barred.

 

[Enoch111]

PART II

How could the press not know about the NIH funding and be curious about it? Could the lack of notice and discussion concerning why we were funding the possible if not likely source of a global pandemic was because Dr. Fauci is somewhat of a media favorite for his ambivalence and cautiousness towards President Trump’s virus response initiartives. Fortunately, the Daily Mail has provided us some fascinating information:

The Chinese laboratory at the center of scrutiny over a potential coronavirus leak has been using U.S. government money to carry out research on bats from the caves which scientists believe are the original source of the deadly outbreak.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan which were funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government. Sequencing of the COVID-19 genome has traced it back to bats found in Yunnan caves but it was first thought to have transferred to humans at an animal market in Wuhan.

The revelation that the Wuhan Institute was experimenting on bats from the area already known to be the source of COVID-19 - and doing so with American money - has sparked further fears that the lab, and not the market, is the original outbreak source …

According to documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday, scientists there experimented on bats as part of a project funded by the US National Institutes of Health, which continues to licence the Wuhan laboratory to receive American money for experiments….

As part of the NIH research at the institute, scientists grew a coronavirus in a lab and injected it into three-day-old piglets.

Say what? We helped fund this monster before it broke out of the lab? And we complain about China lying to us? We have been keeping the truth from ourselves. That NIH-funded research into piglets and coronavirus is worth a serious look:

Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) (a member of the NIH) actually funded a study on Bat Coronavirus, which was a project that included scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the Chinese lab at the center of controversy over their bat research. That study confirmed in 2018 that humans have died from coronavirus.

Here’s an excerpt from the April 4, 2018 NIAID website entry entitled “New Coronavirus Emerges From Bats in China, Devastates Young Swine”: “A newly identified coronavirus that killed nearly 25,000 piglets in 2016-17 in China emerged from horseshoe bats near the origin of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which emerged in 2002 in the same bat species. The new virus is named swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV). It does not appear to infect people, unlike SARS-CoV which infected more than 8,000 people and killed 774. No SARS-CoV cases have been identified since 2004. The study investigators identified SADS-CoV on four pig farms in China’s Guangdong Province. The work was a collaboration among scientists from EcoHealth Alliance, Duke-NUS Medical School, Wuhan Institute of Virology and other organizations, and was funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health. The research is published in the journal Nature. The researchers say the finding is an important reminder that identifying new viruses in animals and quickly determining their potential to infect people is a key way to reduce global health threats.”

Well, the road to pandemic hell was paved with seemingly good intentions, at least on our part. We were not only funding Chinese research on coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology but we knew the lab was a leaky, unsafe, ticking time bomb in 2018, according to leaked State Department cables: [Note: the government of the USA knew about the serious risks from China three years ago and nobody did anything -- particularly Fauci and his gang of conspirators]

Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats….

In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.

What the U.S. officials learned during their visits concerned them so much that they dispatched two diplomatic cables categorized as Sensitive But Unclassified back to Washington. The cables warned about safety and management weaknesses at the WIV lab and proposed more attention and help. The first cable, which I obtained, also warns that the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.

“During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” states the Jan. 19, 2018, cable, which was drafted by two officials from the embassy’s environment, science and health sections who met with the WIV scientists. …

The Chinese researchers at WIV were receiving assistance from the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and other U.S. organizations, but the Chinese requested additional help. The cables argued that the United States should give the Wuhan lab further support, mainly because its research on bat coronaviruses was important but also dangerous.

As it turns out, the NIH was funding dangerous research in Wuhan while the state Department was warning that a global pandemic could leak from the lab, something Chinese scientists said was likely in a South China University study paper. A pandemic study commission formed by the British government concluded that the lab leak could no longer be dismissed out of hand as just another tin-foil hat conspiracy theory. Neither should we.

Daniel John Sobieski is a former editorial writer for Investor’s Business Daily and freelance writer whose pieces have appeared in Human Events, Reason Magazine, and the Chicago Sun-Times among other publications.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/why_did_the_nih_fund_wuhan_labs.html

 

[marksman]

Billionaire Bill Gates and his wife Melinda have committed $100 million of their own money to fight the coronavirus pandemic. In return, a fevered segment of the pro-Trump internet is convinced the couple wants to kill off a good portion of humanity, then install mark-of-the-beast style tracking chips in whoever survives.

On Wednesday, pro-Trump personalities and regular Trump White House guests “Diamond and Silk” became the latest to push conspiracy theories about Gates, tweeting that the Microsoft founder was operating on a secretive “agenda” to “rule the world with vaccines” and vowing not to take any coronavirus vaccine that Gates was involved with.

“You're not going to make black people the guinea pigs for this here right here,” Lynnette “Diamond” Hardaway said in a video.

“We're not going to be your experiment or your project,” Rochelle “Silk” Richardson added.

Diamond and Silk, who have visited the White House on several occasions, been featured as campaign surrogates and been boosted by Trump, aren’t alone. Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson claimed last week that Gates wants to use “vaccines to track people,” while Fox News host Laura Ingraham—who has met with Trump to discuss the coronavirus—tweeted that Gates and other “globalists” want to use the crisis to track people. Gates’s name appeared on protest signs meant to criticize Ohio’s social distancing order, while former Trump adviser Roger Stone accused Gates of wanting to “microchip” people.
Trumpists Believe Bill Gates Is Using Coronavirus to Implant Brain Chips

I am not an expert on the internet and all things technical but I do know that already our use of the internet has given certain of the internet businesses like Google and Facebook and a few others the ability to track what we do on the internet. I have looked at something on the internet and then a few days later I get an email saying would you like this or like that because of something I looked at a few days prior.

Go onto eBay and you are marked for life, so if this was true, then it would not surprise me one little bit and it is all building up to the mark of the beast in some way or other.

 

[Enoch111]

PART III

THE CORONAVIRUS CONSPIRACY
This conspiracy has several aspects including (1) total control of populations, (2) major damage to Western economies (3) serious loss of civil liberties, (4) serious loss of lives, and (5) huge profits for those who manufacture and sell the vaccines for the problems which they have created. The money motive is behind the bogus flu vaccine also.

Fauci, Birx, NIH, Wuhan, Gates, WHO, Gilead (who has produced remdisivir), and the PRC are all connected ,and expect to profit from human misery. Here is the latest on how the Chinese planned to use the coronavirus vaccine (which they evidently reverse engineered from Gilead). This post is in red for China.

EXCLUSIVE: After Coronavirus Spread in Hubei Province Chinese Officials Applied for Remdesivir Patent – They Knew Then It Would Treat Coronavirus – We Now Have Their Application

By Jim Hoft
Published April 18, 2020 at 7:30am

The deadly China coronavirus that started in China sometime in late 2019 has now circled the globe. Evidence suggests that the coronavirus was not from a wet market but came from a lab in Wuhan. We still don’t know whether the deadly virus was leaked intentionally or if it was an accident.

But we do know that the Chinese did attempt to market a cure for the coronavirus to the world in January after the virus began to spread.

We reported four days ago that in late March FOX News host Tucker Carlson reported on a CHINESE study in the Western press on the origin of the novel coronavirus. The study concluded the deadly virus came out of local laboratories in Hubei Province. The smoking gun in the study was the viral link to horseshoe bats which are not sold in local wet markets and are not native to Wuhan. In fact the closest colony is 900 kilometers away. There is no evidence horseshoe bats were sold in the Wuhan wet markets. The local labs used this bat specimen and the virus likely came from a lab in Wuhan.

According to the report the coronavirus came from either the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention or Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China.

These reports linking bats to the coronavirus started making the rounds back in January. A research paper published in the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control and Prevention determined the source of the coronavirus is a laboratory near the Seafood Market in Wuhan.

This past Monday The Gateway Pundit reported that the China coronavirus has connections to former leader of the Chinese Communist Party, Jiang Zemin. For starters, Jiang is the grandfather of Jiang Zhicheng, who has a controlling interest in WuXi AppTec, which controls Fosun Pharma.

In January of this year, weeks after the coronavirus was first reported in China,the Wuhan Institute of Virology applied for a patent on a US drug, Remdesivir, used to treat coronavirus infections.Today we are able to provide a copy of China’s application: [see original article for copy of application in Chinese]

Note that the Chinese changed the drug name in their application and are calling it “Redoxivir”. They also admit in their application that they illegally reverse engineered the Remdesivir without Gilead’s permission for ‘humanitarian’ reason due to the pending epidemic.

Remdesivir is used for the treatment of Ebola and coronavirus infections. The drug showed early success in Washington state treating the coronavirusoutbreak near Seattle. [Note: Fauci has a conflict of interest with his connection to Gilead, and Mr. Trump should have known this]

Soros Fund Management invested in WuXi in 2011. The Gateway Pundit reported on Soros’s investments in WuXi AppTec a few weeks ago.After the coronavirus leaked out in the city of Wuhan in Hubei Province, the Chinese attempted to make money by applying for the patent on the drug remdesivir used to treat the deadly virus. [Note: Evil billionaire George Soros has invested multi-millions in WuXi AppTec also]

Was the coronavirus leaked by accident or was it intentional? Will we ever know?

EXCLUSIVE: After Coronavirus Spread in Hubei Province Chinese Officials Applied for Remdesivir Patent - They Knew Then It Would Treat Coronavirus - We Now Have Their Application

 

[marksman]

Cats and dogs are unique among domesticated animals in that they both seem to have chosen to associate with us, rather than being captured and tamed. Cat were more recent, apparently attracted to the rodents that infested grainaries in early farming settlements. The arrangement suited both of us, and we tolerated them for their killing vermin and they tolerated us for providing good hunting. The "barn cats" on farms pretty much keep that old arrangement intact. We don't own them; they come and go as they please. It's more like a deal between neighbors than the partnership between humans and dogs which is more ancient and much tighter.

It's not to say that cats don't sometimes love us. It's just that they remain independent in their outlook.

As they say, dogs have masters and cats have servants.

 

[Steve Owen]

Billionaire Bill Gates and his wife Melinda have committed $100 million of their own money to fight the coronavirus pandemic. In return, a fevered segment of the pro-Trump internet is convinced the couple wants to kill off a good portion of humanity, then install mark-of-the-beast style tracking chips in whoever survives.

The reason that people suppose this is that they don't understand what Revelation 13:15-18 is teaching.
Revelation was not written solely for our generation. It was written for the benefit of all Christians of all times from the time it was written until our Lord's return.
In Roman times, you could follow almost any religion you wanted so long as every so often you made an offering to the Emperor. If you wouldn't do this, you might be executed (v.15). Also, in order to practise a trade or profession you had to be part of a guild. In order to join the guild, you had to offer a pinch of incense to whatever deity was the god of your trade. If you wouldn't do this, you couldn't work (vs. 16-17).
This sort of stuff has happened in the past and is going on today. In Britain until the 19th Century, non-conformists couldn't go to University or stand for Parliament unless they took communion in an Anglican church and professed the XXXIX Articles. In Pakistan today, in order to access well-paid jobs, you have to profess Allah. That's why most Christians there are either sewage workers or bonded labourers (read slaves) in brick kilns. In China, if your church won't take down the 10 Commandments and put up a picture of the Leader, it gets closed. Today in Britain, nurses get fired for telling either colleagues or patients about the Gospel. The leader of the third largest political party (Liberal Democrats) was hounded out a couple of years ago because he was an evangelical Christian.

So the mark on the hand represents what you do and the mark on the forehead what you believe.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

So now you are using Fake News CNN's tactic of calling the truth-tellers liars, while the liars are called truth-tellers!. As Kennedy has shown clearly (and you have failed to admit) there is a Flu Vaccine Conspiracy with Bill Gates at the head. And if you want further evidence, read this:

Dr. Fauci, It’s Not Nice to Fool Congress About Vaccine Reactions
Dr. Fauci, It’s Not Nice to Fool Congress About Vaccine Reactions

Anthony Fauci is another fraud controlled by Gates, who should not even have been on the Task Force, since he himself is responsible for the coronavirus. And how is it that none of this was brought to Trump's attention BEFORE he brought Fauci and Birx on board? That was putting the fox in the hen house.

THE CORONAVIRUS CONSPIRACY
April 18, 2020
Why Did the NIH Fund Wuhan Labs?
By Daniel John Sobieski

PART I

Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz has asked an obvious question, one that has not come up at the daily White House coronavirus press briefing -- why is the Wuhan Virology Lab a grantee of the National Institutes if Health, whose National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) -- headed by one Dr. Anthony Fauci -- and a recipient of $3.7 million to study coronavirus in bats? Gaetz has gone beyond mere curiosity, writing a letter to HHS Secretary Azar demanding the grant be terminated:

Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., called on Health & Human Services Secretary Alex Azar Tuesday to cease funding a research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, telling "Tucker Carlson Tonight" the action could be accomplished "with the stroke of a pen."

"I'm against funding Chinese research in our country, but I'm sure against funding it in China," Gaetz said. "The NIH [National Institutes of Health] gives a $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology [and] they then advertise that they need coronavirus researchers and following that, coronavirus erupts in Wuhan."…

"What's really troubling to me is either conspicuously or miraculously the Wuhan Institute of Virology is able to sequence the virus on January 2 but China doesn't admit to the virus existing until January 9 and then the Wuhan Institute of Virology doesn't release this important scientific information to the world until January 12," Gaetz said.

"So at best, Americans are funding people who are lying to us and at worst, we're funding people who we knew had problems handling pathogens, who then birthed a monster virus onto the world," he added.

If you go to the Wuhan Institute of Virology website ad look under “Partnerships” you will see listed “the National Institutes of Health of the United States” along with the likes of the University of Alabama, the University of North Texas, Harvard University, EcoHealth Alliance, among others, and the National Wildlife Federation, presumably interested in any connection between the horseshoe bat and coronavirus.

Yet, after the virus outbreak, China would not let U.S. health authorities in to examine the labs and their safeguards, to interview staff and collect samples, both from the animals used in tests at the lab or tissue samples from earl victims. Tissue samples were destroyed, bodies hidden and cremated and false statements made about the possibility of human-to-human transmission passed on to the world through China’s sock puppet, the World (or is it Wuhan) Health Organization. To this day, serious access and scrutiny is barred.

So...not only is the Communist Chinese government lying to us, it appears that our own (U.S.) government is lying to us! It wouldn't be the first time. I can tell you one thing for sure. I don't like to be lied to (even if it's for my own good, lol).

This shows us that it doesn't pay to put our trust in governments (i.e. people). God alone is worthy of our complete trust!!!
.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You are a bunch of stupid devils.

You are a troll!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You are a devil.

A stupid one at that.

I am praying for you, that you will find Jesus--who IS the TRUTH!

 

[Joseph77]

Oh yikes! How this world and Satan can deceive so many, sad.

Jesus is said to be a man of sorrow, acquainted with grief,
and He has grief even for the death of the (many) wicked , as well as for those (few) righteous in Him.

 

[mailmandan]

Some Christians believe that there will be a vaccine chip ID2020 and it will be the mark of the beast - https://hnewswire.com/bill-gates-in...uction-the-mark-of-the-beast-id2020-alliance/

Just saw this on the news last night.



Yet other Christians believe it's a conspiracy theory and those Christians who believe it have been duped. - On Christians Spreading Corona Conspiracies: Gullibility is not a Spiritual Gift

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You are a retarded spirit. I do not care what you do. The only reason you told me this ,
is to exalt yourself over me.

If you knew Jesus your own self you would know
that he would know this about you.

And pray it in secret as He commanded His own.

But as I said
you are a devil and a stupid one at that.

If I were you, I would be careful about calling those who belong to Jesus "the devil." And I'm exalting myself over you by saying that I'm praying for you?? That's a bizarre perspective considering that we are commanded to pray for others....

 

[Pisteuo]

You do this everywhere... on every forum. I used to know the names you went by. bbyrd would probably remember. Maybe the admins will show their mercy and allow you to stick around for awhile this time so you can learn and grow with us.

 

[Joseph77]

You do this everywhere... on every forum. I used to know the names you went by. bbyrd would probably remember. Maybe the admins will show their mercy and allow you to stick around for awhile this time so you can learn and grow with us.

Why? The exponential growth in the world of sin and wickednesses is mirrored, duplicated , on forums - not corrected. Biblical Correction, according to the rules of the forums on the internet, is not permitted.

 

[Joseph77]

removed
You obviously know one thing better than some others, God is not where everyone thinks... nor is faith.

 

[Pisteuo]

Lol. I’ll leave you to judge their faith or standing with God.

 

[Joseph77]

Lol. I’ll leave you to judge their faith or standing with God.

Just watch. Most beleivers leave most forums after less than an hour. After they see what is allowed, permitted and not in line with Scripture.

 

[Pisteuo]

Your judgment of me won’t do me a bit of harm, but it’ll surely hurt you.