Are old testament saints part of the church?

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setfree

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If we are all saved by believing on Jesus the Son of God, on his coming or that he has already come, are we all part of his bride, church?
 

Christina

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All that overcome and do not bow a knee to antichris(Satan) remember the 10 virgins only five are wise enough to make it to the end(wedding) the other five foolish ones almost make it but fall just short.
 
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Numerology plays a role in the 10 virgins too. All ten were Offered Grace, 5 made sure that Grace was kept with them, The other five also were given grace but took it for granted. 5 Is the Number of Grace. All had the Light or Fire of the Holy Ghost, 5 had the Holy Ghost with them and In them, The Other 5 Had the Holy Ghost with them, but not in them. There is many hidden things in the messages. One of the Hidden meanings is, if you don't have the Holy Ghost, you cannot enter into heaven.
 

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The parable of the 10 virgins was all awaiting and believing in Jesus Christ.So by the power of the Holy Spirit they all called him Lord but only 10 of them continued to walk in the Spirit like the seeds which fall into the good soil. The Lord Jesus said, " If you love me you will keep my commandments and I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper the Holy Spirit.Jesus commandment is to walk in love. The flesh and the Spirit cannot be one. So a believer who bears fruit, is one who lives in the fruit of the Spirit, avoiding the flesh.The power of Jesus name can heal disease, cast our demons, cause the blind to walk. But clearly love is about our actions toward God and toward each other.It is loving God and others that we receive the Holy Spirits inner dwelling by walking love. And we need the Spirit to do this for his fruit enables us to be the children of God.The wise virgins lived every day of their lives ready for the Lords return as if he was to come any day. But the others did not live their lives ready for Christ to return that day. So as faithful stewards we should be living in the knowledge and love of our saviour every day,so if he comes back we will not be ashamed. You cannot decide to suddenly want the oil when you found not enough in your lamp for it to burn.Live every hour of the day in his truth. For true worshippers worship God in Spirit and Truth.Faithful.
 
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So the day of pentecost had nothein to do with the birth of the church?
The Birth of the Church? The Church was built before PentecostEphesians2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;Pentecost, was God's Final Dispensation to his People, as the Holy Ghost. He would Vindicate his Called Out, or Church, with Signs and Wonders, just as he did with the Prophets of Old. One can also make a case when God asked Peter in Matthew 11 who he was. Then Jesus Christ told him that the Revelation that Came from the Father that Jesus Christ was Son of God and Messiah was the Rock the Church would be built On. It didn't mean the Church was given it's birth then. It was the Foundation(Prophets and Apostles), then the Body(The Church), then the Capstone(Jesus Christ/Holy Ghost)
 

Christina

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Yes, Christ is the Only way all that believe until the end are part of the Bride Jew and gentile.