ARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS FOR US?

[shepherdsword]

Not being facetious here, but didnt you just "pluck out" a couple verses?

Not out of context as you did.

You can use a verse wrongly, but it's not wrong to cite a verse to uphold your understanding, it should align with other verses by the reader

How many readers believe that we can throw the words of Jesus out by claiming they do not apply to the church? How can you continually deny the commands and teaching of the one who died for you?

Paul did not say to follow him instead of Christ

I know he didn't but that's how you are twisting his words when you claim that we can disregard the teachings of the Lord as applying to Israel only. You focused on this point "follow him as he follows Christ". Don't you think Paul obeyed Christ? If he did, should you not as well since you claim to follow him?

 

[Doug]

The gentiles were given them by Paul. If they are not followed Jesus will say:

Mt 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

But OH YEAH, these words are not for us either (how absurd)

We can learn from them, but no, they arent directly given to us. Jesus was talking to Israel about the requirements to enter the millennial kingdom on earth.

 

[shepherdsword]

We can learn from them, but no, they arent directly given to us. Jesus was talking to Israel about the requirements to enter the millennial kingdom on earth.

No...he was talking about what would happen to those who ignored his teaching and did not do the will of the Father. His teaching and commandments were for ALL nations. Matt 28-19-20

 

[Doug]

GREAT

God's Sabbath REST is still commanded!!!
But not on any day of the week.

Why did JESUS and the apostles not command the keeping of saturday sabbath rest???

The sabbath is not commanded by Paul for the body of Christ

I dont know anywhere Jesus or the apostles commanded keeping the sabbath. Jesus said to keep the ten commandments and upheld the law

 

[Doug]

Not out of context as you did.

What verse did I take out of context?

 

[Doug]

How many readers believe that we can throw the words of Jesus out by claiming they do not apply to the church? How can you continually deny the commands and teaching of the one who died for you?

I follow Paul who gives us the commands of Jesus
I dont negate all Jesus taught and apply what is appropiate knowing not all he taught and commanded was for me

 

[shepherdsword]

What verse did I take out of context?

1 Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

 

[shepherdsword]

I follow Paul who gives us the commands of Jesus

Paul was telling us that he follows Christ, as in keeping his commandments and teachings, and we should follow him and do the same.

I dont negate all Jesus taught and apply what is appropiate knowing not all he taught and commanded was for me

You said the sermon on the mount was not applicable to you. Wrong. You said Mat 28:19-20 was only meant for the millennial kingdom...Wrong.

 

[Doug]

No...he was talking about what would happen to those who ignored his teaching and did not do the will of the Father.

They would not enter the kingdom on earth

 

[Doug]

1 Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Ok thanks
What did I say that took this verse out of context? Please copy and show me what I said out of context

 

[Doug]

Paul was telling us that he follows Christ, as in keeping his commandments and teachings, and we should follow him and do the same.

You said the sermon on the mount was not applicable to you. Wrong. You said Mat 28:19-20 was only meant for the millennial kingdom...Wrong.

Paul was telling us that he follows Christ, as in keeping his commandments and teachings, and we should follow him and do the same.

[1Th 4:2 KJV] "For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus."............The commandments Paul gave were given to THEM not ones given to Israel

You said the sermon on the mount was not applicable to you. Wrong. You said Mat 28:19-20 was only meant for the millennial kingdom...Wrong.

Show me how and why they are wrong

 

[Doug]

On the contrary Doug

Paul SPECIFICALLY said that the sabbaths are no longer applicable to us under the Law.

You are in direct opposition to the Apostle Paul and the LORD = Colossians 2:16

Therefore let no one judge you in regard to food, or in regard to drink, or in regard to a feast, or a new moon, or sabbaths,

Doug, you need Salvation

I said this..........The sabbath is not commanded by Paul for the body of Christ

I dont have any idea why you would say i am in opposition to Paul saying we arent under the law to keep the sabbath

 

[David in NJ]

I said this..........The sabbath is not commanded by Paul for the body of Christ

I dont have any idea why you would say i am in opposition to Paul saying we arent under the law to keep the sabbath

i read to fast and missed the word "not"

Woke up this morning with high blood pressure and a little dizziness that is still lingering.

 

[amigo de christo]

i read to fast and missed the word "not"

Woke up this morning with high blood pressure and a little dizziness that is still lingering.

When the heart of a sheep beats no more it will be forever with THE LORD .
In what i call , but paul said it first , THE FAR BETTER .
For to depart and be WITH CHRIST IS FAR BETTER .
But till we do , LET US HONOR HIM and let us not be concerned with appeasing and pleasing man .
Just a reminder for us all my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

i read to fast and missed the word "not"

Woke up this morning with high blood pressure and a little dizziness that is still lingering.

you are prayed for my friend .

 

[shepherdsword]

[1Th 4:2 KJV] "For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus."............The commandments Paul gave were given to THEM not ones given to Israel

Thanks for proving my point. The commandments the Lord gave were for the JEW FIRST and also for the Greek.. This is proof that the Lord didn't make a distinction in Paul's ministry:

Ac 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

This proves Paul taught the same gospel to BOTH the gentiles and the children of Israel

Show any commandments that Jesus gave Paul that were not for also for the Jew.

Show me how and why they are wrong

I already have. The fact that the gospel has went out to the nations is a powerful witness against your position. Let's look at the gospel:

Ro 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

The Greeks received the same gospel the Jews did. This refutes any notion that the Jews had some special gospel only for them and that the teachings of the Lord were only for Israel

 

[David in NJ]

When the heart of a sheep beats no more it will be forever with THE LORD .
In what i call , but paul said it first , THE FAR BETTER .
For to depart and be WITH CHRIST IS FAR BETTER .
But till we do , LET US HONOR HIM and let us not be concerned with appeasing and pleasing man .
Just a reminder for us all my friend .

i want to share with you and @Nancy @TLHKAJ @Archie @Marvelloustime @Lizbeth @Debp @ewq1938 @Earburner and anyone else i missed
that for the past year i sense my time here is coming to an end.

My main concern is for Danny and Micaiah who have serious health issues.

My wife will miss me but be fine as she loves the Lord and has a special anointing on her life.

 

[amigo de christo]

i want to share with you and @Nancy @TLHKAJ @Marvelloustime @Lizbeth @Debp @ewq1938 @Earburner and anyone else i missed
that for the past year i sense my time here is coming to an end.

My main concern is for Danny and Micaiah who have serious health issues.

My wife will miss me but be fine as she loves the Lord and has a special anointing on her life.

It may be , but it might not be .
I m yself could go home tonight . none of us knows the when . ONLY GOD .
you will be prayed for my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

i want to share with you and @Nancy @TLHKAJ @Marvelloustime @Lizbeth @Debp @ewq1938 @Earburner and anyone else i missed
that for the past year i sense my time here is coming to an end.

My main concern is for Danny and Micaiah who have serious health issues.

My wife will miss me but be fine as she loves the Lord and has a special anointing on her life.

The only thing that truly ever mattered in this life was , DID ONE KNOW GOD , CHRIST .
That is our mission my friend . To contend for the t ruth , to bring the lovely and pure words of the LORD
to preach the ONLY gospel
to expose anything contrary TO GOD ALL MIGHTY .
This life is a vapor my friend . None of us knows if we even have tonight .
BUT THIS I DO KNOW
if one HAS THE LORD they DO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE , WILL NEVER DIE . POINT TO JESUS to the last breath my friend .
And what a lovely HOME awaits the sheep .
CANT AND WONT say the same for this ecumincal w hore and her children who REBELLED against
THE ONLY GOD , CHRIST , HIS WORDS .
While we have time , WE POINT TO JESUS , WE POINT TO ALL THE LOVELY REMINDERS of TRUTH
in the scriptures .

 

[David in NJ]

I said this..........The sabbath is not commanded by Paul for the body of Christ

I dont have any idea why you would say i am in opposition to Paul saying we arent under the law to keep the sabbath

Doug, i deleted my post - thank you for letting me know