Hello samyFunny this thread shou;d pop up today.Ive actually spent the whole day reviewing this post, as i save my work to word pad, and look what i did to it.Are we on our way to the GWT? Who do you think will be there?....will you?Berlieving the way i do, i would say yes, everyone who has ever lived will be there.Here is why. -----link between the second coming and judgement for all.Quote: Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deedsIve underlined the points i want to emphasise on.Jesus said that he was coming quickly to render to every man ....according to his deeds.Quote: REV 22"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." MATT 1627 "For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. and in rom 2;Quote: But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignationDoesnt it appear like -at the 2nd coming we go to the GWT?This is where he seperates the sheep from the goats at his coming-those on his right go to the home of righteousness and those on his left are thrown into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels. matt 25:31This means that the one sitting on the GWT is Jesus---This is the judgement seat of Christ.JN 5 confirms that at the ressurection all judgement is given to the son-some are raised to glory (those on his right) some to shame (left) see dan 12.Then the righteous will shine in the kingdom of their father-------see matt 13Look carefully at Jn 5"Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; 27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. 28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. Is it not clear that the lord utters his voice once, and all come forth-----some are in the book of life some are not.-see rom 2Quote: Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 14 I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16 "They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes." When does God wipe away the tears? rev 21.,At the GWT.---right after the G-TRIB............(and the second coming.)Also notice that the book of life is opened at the GWT.In other words the sons of God are revealed once the book is opened,not before, and those names not found in it are thrown into the fire.Jesus warned,he who overcomes ;Quote: 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.' Yes i believe we will all be there, hence the plea to found watching (awake) and to be ready, lest your name is found to be erased out of the book, when it is finally opened.I know this has a serious effect on how we interpret the millenium and the first ressurection,but consider how it not mentioned..Jesus links the heavens and the earth passing away at his coming, and this is what happens at the GWT.How then can he rule on this earth for 1000 years after his coming, if it disappears from view forever when he comes again.He did say that he went away to prepare the place for us-- in the fathers house-the home of righteousness, why would he want to establish it on this old rock.-flesh and blood planet??No, his kingdom is not of this worldbehold he makes it all new and it descends out of heavenPeter wants us to look to these things-the day the old perishes and him being recieved by the lord in the home of righteousness."In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4 "And you know the way where I am going."But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. Wasnt that his promise in JN 14--TO COME AND RECIEVE US INTO THE FATHERS HOUSE?He recieves us, when at the ressurection the last day, we all rise to meet him and be with him forever.--Flesh and blood needs to put on immortality, so we can inherit the kingdom prepared..35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah."He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me. 46 "I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness. 47 "If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. 50 "I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me." This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." God bless.