Before The Foundation Of The World 2

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Have you ever noticed how there is some people that go from group to group, from religion to religion, church to church.
They seem to be searching, looking for the proverbial carrot that dangles in front of them.
The good news for you if you are one of them; most that hopp around and never seemed settled in their spiritually, the hunger you have drives you to understand the things of God.
Religion has those stereotyped and have no understanding even what they are looking for.
The scripture comes to mind- seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be open, ask and it shall be given.

Ephesians 1:4, once again addresses the lack of understanding what took place before creation.

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Dispensationalists and Pre-electionists, as well as others believe God chose you to be saved before you were born.
When the scripture does not say that, it says if you are going to be reborn (born again) it will happen by God placing you in Christ. That fits the weight of scripture of our "in Christ" message.
The point being; there is a before gospel, and a after gospel that started after creation. The after gospel of correction, getting Adam lined back out to fit into creation.
That is what religion preach's, straighten up or else.
Has nothing to do with the before gospel message. The after gospel is always working on Adam, trying to make him right.
You ever hear the words, "you better get right with God," when you have already been born again and have Christ in you.
Can you see the strange dilemma that places believers in.
And they wonder why you go from place to place, or nowhere at all because of the ignorance to correct Adam.
All the time Adam has been crucified on the cross with Christ.
Adam is what died on the tree, the sin-nature destroyed, never to exist in a believer again.
Believers have a new nature, and to buy into the two nature deal or even worse Adam still exists for a believer is and untruth or what is normally referred to as a lie.
If the cross did not take out sin and all it consists of the pray tell what will.
Religion keeps the cogs turning and well oiled by preaching the gospel of correction, trying to get Adam saved.
If you need confirmation all you have to do is look at the local book store shelves and latest best seller of "how to" books.
Like the gospel does not work or something, that is religion in full bloom.
The issue believers have now is a mind issue not spirit, if you cannot divide the two, then you need to learn to or you will go around and around the mountain of never being able to put together what God had hid in Him before the foundation of the world, Romans 16:25

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
 

farouk

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Have you ever noticed how there is some people that go from group to group, from religion to religion, church to church.
They seem to be searching, looking for the proverbial carrot that dangles in front of them.
The good news for you if you are one of them; most that hopp around and never seemed settled in their spiritually, the hunger you have drives you to understand the things of God.
Religion has those stereotyped and have no understanding even what they are looking for.
The scripture comes to mind- seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be open, ask and it shall be given.

Ephesians 1:4, once again addresses the lack of understanding what took place before creation.

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Dispensationalists and Pre-electionists, as well as others believe God chose you to be saved before you were born.
When the scripture does not say that, it says if you are going to be reborn (born again) it will happen by God placing you in Christ. That fits the weight of scripture of our "in Christ" message.
The point being; there is a before gospel, and a after gospel that started after creation. The after gospel of correction, getting Adam lined back out to fit into creation.
That is what religion preach's, straighten up or else.
Has nothing to do with the before gospel message. The after gospel is always working on Adam, trying to make him right.
You ever hear the words, "you better get right with God," when you have already been born again and have Christ in you.
Can you see the strange dilemma that places believers in.
And they wonder why you go from place to place, or nowhere at all because of the ignorance to correct Adam.
All the time Adam has been crucified on the cross with Christ.
Adam is what died on the tree, the sin-nature destroyed, never to exist in a believer again.
Believers have a new nature, and to buy into the two nature deal or even worse Adam still exists for a believer is and untruth or what is normally referred to as a lie.
If the cross did not take out sin and all it consists of the pray tell what will.
Religion keeps the cogs turning and well oiled by preaching the gospel of correction, trying to get Adam saved.
If you need confirmation all you have to do is look at the local book store shelves and latest best seller of "how to" books.
Like the gospel does not work or something, that is religion in full bloom.
The issue believers have now is a mind issue not spirit, if you cannot divide the two, then you need to learn to or you will go around and around the mountain of never being able to put together what God had hid in Him before the foundation of the world, Romans 16:25

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
We do need to be established in the Scriptures, yes!