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Biblical "Women" in the Eyes of God

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by whirlwind, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. whirlwind

    whirlwind New Member

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    Jeremiah 50:35-38 A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men. A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed. A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed. A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols.


    Nahum 3:12-14 All thy strong holds shall be like fig trees with the firstripe figs: if they be shaken, they shall even fall into the mouth of the eater. Behold, thy people in the midst of thee are women: the gates of thy land shall be set wide open unto thine enemies: the fire shall devour thy bars. Draw thee waters for the siege, fortify thy strong holds: go into clay, and tread the morter, make strong the brickkiln.


    Isaiah 3:11-13 Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him. As for My people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O My people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.




    It doesn't sound good for the feminine side...does it? :huh: But often what it appears to be on the surface isn't what is meant. The verses aren't chauvinistic but refer to both genders.



    Women # 802 ~ woman, wife, female



    The women that rule over God's children, the women in the midst of us, and the women some are if they remain residents of Babylon....are both male and female. As both genders are the wife of Christ...Babylon too has a wife. Those that commit adultery/idolatry to our Father are...the woman in the above verses. So, we must not allow a fallen woman and her deception to rule over us.
     
  2. Dodo_David

    Dodo_David Melmacian in human guise

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    Jeremiah 50:37 (Complete Jewish Bible): "... they will become like women."
    Nahum 3:13 (Complete Jewish Bible): "Look at your troops! They behave like women!"

    So, what do these Prophets mean by "like women"?

    Jeremiah 50:37 (NIV): "They will become weaklings."
    Nahum 3:13 (NIV): "Look at your troops — they are all weaklings."
     
  3. day

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    Women in most ancient cultures had no status or power. Others determined their fate. The references quoted are saying that those addressed would find themselves in the same situation, at the mercy of anyone else.
     
  4. Dodo_David

    Dodo_David Melmacian in human guise

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    In order to keep this thread on topic, I have split the posts that pertain to a dispute about the KJV.

    Those posts are now the beginning of a new thread titled "KJV Dispute".

    To read those particular posts, click here.
     
  5. Purity

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    [SIZE=10.5pt]The translators notes on the NET for Jer 51:30 KJV [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=10.5pt]tn[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] Heb[/SIZE] “They have become women.” The metaphor has been turned into a simile and the significance of the comparison drawn out for the sake of clarity. See Jer 50:37 for the same figure.

    [SIZE=10.5pt]From Jeremiah chapter 46 to 51 we see continued imagery of Israel's weak condition now applied extensively to all her enemies. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=10.5pt]The oracles begin with Egypt, Israel’s first oppressor, and conclude with a lengthy message (nearly half the section) against Babylon, Israel’s present oppressor. As with reference to Judah, the application of female imagery to the enemy nations conveys the idea of helplessness and vulnerability in the context of military attack. Like the armies of Israel the warriors in these foreign armies will become like women ( Jer 48:41; Jer 49:22, 24; Jer 50:37, 43; Jer 51:30 ). The families and children of these foreign nations will bear the brunt of war just like the families of Israel and Judah ( Jer 47:3; Jer 48:4–6; Jer 49:10, 20; Jer 50:45–46 ).[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=10.5pt]Despite the stereotypical language of destruction and defeat, Yahweh promised that defeat will not be final for Egypt ( Jer 46:26 ) and that He will “restore the fortunes” of Moab ( Jer 48:47) , Ammon (Jer 49:6) and Elam (Jer 49:39), just as He had done for His people Israel. Ultimately the Book of Jeremiah also holds forth the hope that the nations will share in the covenantal intimacy that exists between Yahweh and Israel, His bride.[/SIZE]
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