Birthed Son's

[April_Rose]

I reread your post I'm not for sure if I understand what you were saying. What I got was a natural birth I think but not sure. I made a reference to natural birth but just a reference.

I think I see what you're saying now but there's a big difference between saying that God doesn't do something and that He can't do something and like I said before (as long as it isn't sinful of course) God can do anything He wants to at any time He wants to.

 

[Amazed@grace]

Ok thanks let's look at that further where are you finding scripture for God creating son's. What about born again, what do you get from this birth?
Please I'm not trying to out do anyone that is my point in bringing subjects that either go unnoticed or not talked about as much or sometimes overlooked. I just give my understanding everyone is different in understanding I get that. Jsing

Many son's like unto His one Son.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. - Romans 8:29.

Ok thanks let's look at that further where are you finding scripture for God creating son's. What about born again, what do you get from this birth?
Please I'm not trying to out do anyone that is my point in bringing subjects that either go unnoticed or not talked about as much or sometimes overlooked. I just give my understanding everyone is different in understanding I get that. Jsing

Many son's like unto His one Son.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. - Romans 8:29.

Hosea 1:10 comes to mind. All of chapter 1 for context of course.:)

 

[Curtis]

Have you ever given thought to; Creator God in all His omnipotence cannot bring forth one son in creation alone. The Only begotten Son of coarse is not a creation. But the son's of God are a real born again product of God the Father produced by a birthing. That is a real look at a real father - in this case for lack of a better word - extremes to get what the creator God with Fatherly attributes so desired before the foundation of the world to have sons like unto His only begotten Son.

The plan and purpose for all of creation is written overwhelmingly in scripture to give full direct to those son's and daughter's He would single handedly have to do with.

To get real son's of God He would birth them because you cannot create son's. That dear saints is God in His full Magnificence and Glory creating and making son's after Himself. I'm in total awe everytime I delve into His plan to birth His Own children and keep it a sacred secret until the time to reveal it - oh how His wonders to perform. Worship His Majesty!

Why sacred secret? So man has no influence whatsoever in this decision.

The only created sons of God are the angels, called sons of God in Job.

We are not created sons of God, we are adopted sons of God, via choosing to receive Jesus:

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

When the Father created a body for Jesus to incarnate into, He became Gods only Begotten Son, but Jesus as God the word, always existed.

Shalom.

 

[soul man]

I think I see what you're saying now but there's a big difference between saying that God doesn't do something and that He can't do something and like I said before (as long as it isn't sinful of course) God can do anything He wants to at any time He wants to.

Yes correct but look at what we are discussing. We are talking about sons of God - children both male and female in the natural have been born again. So to be able to get sons and daughters, literal children of God - they have to be born in to His family. Not to cap on our other brother that is commenting but adoption is learning the family spirit after you have been born into the family of God that we have never been apart of so we must learn but you are born into the family. In order for God Himself to get what He wanted before He created anything Eph.1:4, He would have a plan and purpose in creating a world and in it's foundational plans are; to get children - bonified birthed offspring - children - by placing apart of Himself -Christ- in them and making them His children. They will have His nature (the nature of God is in Christ), just like they had a sin nature (Adam nature passed down) now they have a new nature by Christ in them. So you don't create son's, He can't what would be the point - He would like son's and daughter's that choose to be His not created to be, that would mean nothing to Him.

 

[soul man]

This is why Paul is so important because he doesn't vary from subject (bad wording for Paul) to subject. He gives us clear cut knowledge of what was going on before creation - what happened after creation when Adam fell - what happens at the cross - what happens when you believe - everything you need to know is wrapped up in Paul who specifically address's the born again. His message (gospel) is written to the born again. It's not to Israel Israel has their message (Moses) unless they chose to believe like anyone else. And they to are born again as we know. So Knowing where and what to read is very important to believers to get fixed in mind and have understanding of the things of God. This is what I always say - give the Holyspirit time and room to teach us and see what He has to say about Christ in you. You start to see that is His main objective for in that is everything. Not who the Anti-Christ is or when will the rapture take place. Those are fun studies but get it fixed in you by the Holyspirit about the plan and purpose of God for all of humanity. For in that you have life.

 

[soul man]

The only created sons of God are the angels, called sons of God in Job.

We are not created sons of God, we are adopted sons of God, via choosing to receive Jesus:

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

When the Father created a body for Jesus to incarnate into, He became Gods only Begotten Son, but Jesus as God the word, always existed.

Shalom.

Ok your adopted so get.out of the family :-) bad joke. I see it completely different and what do you do with all the scriptures about a birthing taking place or born again to quote scripture. What do we do with the weight of scripture concerning - born again - do you have anything on that?