Can Amils reasonably explain the following by keeping gymnastics and moving the goalpost out of it?

[Truth7t7]

The latter:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

"3rd post no response"

You have a hard time understanding that those seen in Revelation 20:4-6 are "The Souls" and "The Dead" they are in the Lord's eternal realm where one day is a thousand years (Outside Of Literal Earthly Time)

A believer that died 1,000 years ago entered the Lord's eternal realm, just as the believer that dies tomorrow or one day before the Lord's second coming will enter the Lord's eternal spiritual realm where one day is a thousand years (Spiritual Eternal Realm) = Thousand Years, the Lord's eternal

You as a premillennialist want to take the words "Thousand Years" and turn it into literal earthly time in a kingdom on this earth "False"!

 

[Truth7t7]

Why don't you try and address some of the questions I have asked? Your response here is not an argument nor an answer to any of the questions I have asked. Use Daniel 7 to prove Amil then. I used it in another thread to disprove it. You all have nothing that actually proves your timeline.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[rwb]

Why don't you try and address some of the questions I have asked? Your response here is not an argument nor an answer to any of the questions I have asked. Use Daniel 7 to prove Amil then. I used it in another thread to disprove it. You all have nothing that actually proves your timeline.

Why don't you address my replies to you? Dan 7 helps to prove what I've said. The reason you and AI are unable to reconcile Dan 7 and Rev 20 is that you make no distinction of Old Covenant saints and New Covenant saints. Nor have you demonstrated any understanding of the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of God that the coming of Christ came to earth with. A Kingdom that can only be known and entered when one is born again.

The Old Covenant faithful souls slain for the Word of God and their testimony were not crying out to God from heaven. They could not go to heaven after being killed until the promised One came to make atonement for sin and defeat death. These OC faithful souls cried out to God from the bosom of Abraham, which was what the place of the faithful dead was called in days of Old. (Lk 16:22-23)

They died waiting for the promised Messiah to come with the Kingdom of God. To be under the altar was to be [spiritually] covered by the sacrificial atoning blood through promise. When Christ came with the Kingdom of God is when the souls cried out for vengeance. That's when they were given white robes, signifying righteousness of the saints, (Rev 7:9-17) and told "they should yet rest for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

Therefore, time (little season) for them began when Christ came to earth with the Kingdom of God. The little season for the faithful saints then would be finished when Christ went to the cross and resurrected from the dead. That would be about 3-3 1/2 years later.

The fellowservants and their brethren I believe were Old Covenant Hebrew faithful who, like Abraham, heard the gospel preached through the prophets of Old, and according to grace through faith believed God. (see Gal 3:8) I believe they are called the elect remnant of God from the Old Covenant nation of Israel reserved for everlasting life by God (Ro 11:4). And their brethren also, I believe is Christ our Lord. (Mt 12:46-49)

The fellowservants killed as they, are depicted as those who are the many (spiritual) bodies of the old covenant saints who came out of the graves after the resurrection of Christ (Mt 27:52-53). Before ascending to heaven after His resurrection, Christ first descended to the lower parts of the earth, (graves of Old called the bosom of Abraham) to set the captives free (Eph 4:8-10). The fellowservants also included those Hebrew saints living under the Old Covenant who believed in Christ through the preaching of John-the-Baptist, who went about telling first century Jews the good news, preaching repentance for the One they were waiting for had come.

The little season for the souls of them that were slain of Old came to an end when Christ came to earth a man. And that is when a/the thousand years for Satan to be bound began [and when the thousand years for spiritually living and reigning with Christ began]. When the thousand years have ended, then Satan will also have a little season of freedom from the pit, (Rev 20:3,7) because that's when preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ will be fulfilled, salvation ended.

We have no way of knowing how much time Satan will be given in the days when the seventh trumpet begins to sound (Rev 10:5-7). But, if we gage his time according to the little season for the souls of Old, we know it will not be ONE thousand more years of time once the last trumpet begins to sound.

Because they cried out to God in heaven from the bosom of Abraham, which is the place where faithful saints after physical death went; IOW the resting place for the physically dead saints of Old. They want to know how long before they will be with the promised One in heaven and set free from bondage to the grave. God does not give them an exact time but assures them their waiting will not be much longer, because that is how "little season" is defined, certainly NOT One thousand years.

Why in your discourse with AI do neither you nor AI show any understanding for the FACT that with His coming Christ ushered in the spiritual Kingdom of God? Your whole discourse seems to assume only a physical Kingdom of God that you are still waiting for.