Can Amils reasonably explain the following by keeping gymnastics and moving the goalpost out of it?

[rwb]

RWB:

Davidai does not understand what thrones, sit upon them, and judgment was given to them all means is because he is thinking everything literally. That is the problem.

We, Christians, already experienced the First Resurrection (bring born again), and the judgment that was given to us is the WORD of GOD, not our own! When we preach the Word of God, we are bringing judgment as a fire that will burn the people and are also as cool waters for the thirsty soul to be saved. See, when we are raised up in Christ, we become His Judges on Earth, bringing the Word of God to the masses. This is how we "seat" - - we rule with Christ by preaching His Gospel. Wr are the ambassadors that represents His Kingdom on Earth. If you or any Christians who have physically died before the Second Coming, our souls will immediately go to heaven and continue reign with Christ. We were always spiritually alive in Christ on Earth after being born again. But for the "rest of the dead" - those who have not yet being saved (born again), their souls remain dead. When their flesh dies, their souls will remain in the grave in silence, not having any conscience, until they will be resurrect when Christ returns on the last day in the future. THAT will be the second resurrection for them. We already have the first resurrection. We do not need to worry about the second resurrection because our souls inside us, whether we are physically alive or not, are already made alive. If we physically dies before Christ returns, our souls will simply transfer to heaven - immediately! In fact, it won't be consider as the resurrection since we already had the first resurrection when we heard the gospel, repent and believe in Christ. When we do, we are given judgment and sit as kings and priest in His Kingdom. Right now.

David entirely lacks understanding of Amil doctrine but has convinced himself that he is the one who will expose Amil error. His inquisitive, perhaps arrogant mind lacks spiritual discernment. He is one of those the Bible tells us is ever learning and never coming to knowledge of truth.

 

[Davidpt]

You bring it on yourself! Because you are not honest about your lack of knowing things that can only be spiritually discerned. It seems your brain works through natural man whose greatest desire is to disprove what you don't understand, rather than the spiritual man that should be your teacher. Since your so fond of AI why don't you ask AI what you need to understand things that come from the Spirit of God? Ask if a man should be trying to teach or correct others when they themselves lack spiritual understanding of God's Word?

Even Amils that are agreeing with you here simply because that is apparently the cool thing to do, to agree with any Amil that disagrees with a Premil, period, disagrees with you about a number of things. And they are obviously just as hostile towards you that they are towards me. Therefore, your point is moot. An example of a thread where they are hostile throughout towards you---Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

Tell me I'm just imagining things though. Did you bring those things upon yourself then? That's what you are charging me with. It equally should apply to you in the same way you insist it applies to me, in that case. In order to be 100% fair here.

 

[Davidpt]

I'm no longer even asking Amils to logically prove that saints martyred during satan's little season reign as kings on throne for a thousand years when they get to heaven. I don't need to now. I have found a much easier question for them to address and answer. Thus far crickets. I wonder why? Maybe because Amil is just as dishonest with the text as Preteribbers are. To answer these questions truthfully will reveal their dishonesty, therefore, they are unwiling to answer these questions truthfully.

Revelation 20:4 in light of Revelation 6:9-11, how can Amils then insist those per the latter are living and reigning with Christ a thousand years, together with those per the former?

The former
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them


The latter:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Therefore, this alone forbids Amil. Amil can't even prove it's own system via the texts alone. It has to use gymnastics in order to make it appear to someone lacking good reading comprehension, that their view works, that their view agree with the texts.

And watch what happens now. They will continue attacking me in order to deflect from answering these simple questions above. One of the oldest tricks in the book. And they are the ones that helped write the playbook, therefore, they are pros at it. And all I'm trying to do is just have an honest discussion. Which means they too need to be transparent. But instead, they are as transparent as the Trump Administration is. And that's not good to be compared with that.

 

[rwb]

Even Amils that are agreeing with you here simply because that is apparently the cool thing to do, to agree with any Amil that disagrees with a Premil, period, disagrees with you about a number of things. And they are obviously just as hostile towards you that they are towards me. Therefore, your point is moot. An example of a thread where they are hostile throughout towards you---Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

Tell me I'm just imagining things though. Did you bring those things upon yourself then? That's what you are charging me with. It equally should apply to you in the same way you insist it applies to me, in that case. In order to be 100% fair here.

David, this too is another tactic you often use in these forums. You try to redirect the topic, or pile on verses that have little if anything to do with the topic at hand. It only proves that I spoke truth when saying you are very dishonest when discussing Amillennialism. Surely, you've heard the old saying 'if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.'

 

[Truth7t7]

I submitted my OP for an AI to analyze and review.
I then asked the AI this
Me:
Are my points valid? Or is it like the Amil said, the OP is pointless?
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This Google AI:

Lol, Google AI is now acting as the all knowing Holy Spirit, Big Smiles!

Bowing to a worldly programmed electronic system is a scary thing, "Beware"!

 

[Truth7t7]

The latter:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

You have a hard time understanding that those seen in Revelation 20:4-6 are "The Souls" and "The Dead" they are in the Lord's eternal realm where one day is a thousand years (Outside Of Literal Earthly Time)

A believer that died 1,000 years ago entered the Lord's eternal realm, just as the believer that dies tomorrow or one day before the Lord's second coming will enter the Lord's eternal spiritual realm where one day is a thousand years (Spiritual Eternal Realm) = Thousand Years, the Lord's eternal

You as a premillennialist want to take the words "Thousand Years" and turn it into literal earthly time in a kingdom on this earth "False"!